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  • W West_of_West

    If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

    Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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    woodscientist@lemmy.world
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    Or a nation could try not selling its soul for a buck.

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    • W West_of_West

      If you are the head of a state you don’t get the luxury of personal convictions. You should always be acting in the interest of the state.

      Realpolitik says the best interests of Canada are to try to get Trump to walk back steel and aluminium tariffs buying time while to diversify exports and institute “Buy Canadian”

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      Sunshine (she/her)
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      #27

      King Charles is the head of state.

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      • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

        I’m certain the basic ability to do so isn’t the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

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        Avid Amoeba
        wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
        #28

        I heard a nice line on CBC Power & Politics today - that what we’re feeling right now is the powerlessness Latin American countries have been feling for a long time while being in the US’es crosshair.

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        • M masterofn001

          (Everythimg said is meant to be taken in a general.context and not specific to you - except the part about creeping your profile. I speak like that sometimes, and I don’t mean to say anything about you specifically)

          I may not agree with everything you say or think, (I don’t know, I haven’t creeped your profile), but the ability for us to disagree (as long as it doesn’t harm anyone - except those who seek to destroy us) is the basis for civil society, and as of now, whatever differences you and I may or may not have regarding our current life choice or lifestyles is immaterial in the face of a literal apocalyptic threat coming from south of our border.

          We all need to suck it up and put our truly petty differences aside in order to essentially save our nation, and our humanity, and humanity as a whole, for that matter.

          I’m all about do whatever the fuck you want to do. As long as you don’t hurt myself or others,cool. I don’t give one fuck.

          What I do care about is stopping a psychopath and his neonazi evangelizers destroy any hope for any future that isn’t pure hell.

          Can we do that?

          Can we just relax our tribalism that people like trump has allowed the powers to foment this artificial hatred so many of us have let take hold of us?

          Can we work as one for the common good?

          I fucking hope so.

          Or we all die in our smug righteousness.

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          traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Nazis’ whole deal is crushing those who can’t or won’t crush back. Calls to not oppose them are fundamentally calls to enable their conquest and terror

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          • N n4ch1sm0

            Typical neolib capitulation- ahem I mean tolerance. That’s worked great for the Americans, I’m sure it’ll work for the Canadians /s

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            idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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            Appeasement, if you’re nasty

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            • T traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone

              Nazis’ whole deal is crushing those who can’t or won’t crush back. Calls to not oppose them are fundamentally calls to enable their conquest and terror

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              masterofn001
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              #31

              I have been calling for much more than merely opposing - for a very long time.

              What I am asking for is for us to set aside our personal differences to do the crushing as one.

              When that’s done, we can debate our petty grievances and parliamentary theatrics once again.

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              • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                I heard a nice line on CBC Power & Politics today - that what we’re feeling right now is the powerlessness Latin American countries have been feling for a long time while being in the US’es crosshair.

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                #32

                Alliance time 😆

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                • T tigeroovy@lemmy.ca

                  If Carney just punched him in the face I would vote for him again based on that alone.

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                  medic8teme@lemmy.ca
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                  It’s what he’d have to do to ever get my vote again.

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                  • M medic8teme@lemmy.ca

                    It’s what he’d have to do to ever get my vote again.

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                    mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                    #34

                    You prefer Trump lite? (The conservative party of Canada)

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                    • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                      I’m certain the basic ability to do so isn’t the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

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                      mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                      #35

                      I disagree with this assessment.

                      I think that Carney was there for trade talks and refused to be side tracked from that and engage in discussions that were unrelated to the goal of improving trade relations between the USA and Canada.

                      He just sat there, and let Donny boy run his fat mouth, and when they got back on topic he suddenly had something to say.

                      Honestly, when I’m trying to have a productive conversation about something with someone and they veer off into insanity mid conversation, I usually just let them talk themselves out, then redirect them to the topic when they seem like they’re done, so we can have productive discussions on the matter at hand.

                      Bluntly, there’s no point arguing with the senile about their insane positions on anything, even if you get them to agree or change their viewpoint, in 15 minutes they’ll forget and go back to their original bullshit.

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                      • Nik282000N Nik282000

                        Better sooner than later. Trump is a traitor to humanity. Hang him.

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                        mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                        I think you’ll be hard pressed to find disagreement on this around here…

                        Though, I have been wrong before.

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                        • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

                          Unfortunately, I agree with you. If history is any indicator, this is not going to end well…for any of us. We need to prepare that inevitability.

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                          mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                          I live near Niagara falls, I’m in the nuclear splash zone if it gets nuked, and if a war breaks out, the power plants will definitely become targets.

                          Good luck everyone. I probably won’t be alive to see the outcomes if war breaks out.

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                          • B ByteOnBikes

                            President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

                            The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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                            mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                            #38

                            I’m just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he’s there for trade talks.

                            I’m just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.

                            I’m not sure why anyone thinks Carney’s priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war…

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                            • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                              I’m certain the basic ability to do so isn’t the problem. More like, they have us at a disadvantage and he thinks tolerating Trump is the smartest play. Time will tell if that works out at all.

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                              jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                              #39

                              I’m disappointed in Carney but admittedly don’t have enough info to fully justify feeling that yet. There’s a lot of nuance at that level and it does seem like Carney is shifting our interests to other markets.

                              My hope is he’s stringing the US along while he makes changes, basically like setting up a place to live and work before ending an abusive relationship. I understand that cutting ties completely would cripple our economy so that’s not an option, just gonna wait for the end of his first year before I really make my opinion.

                              I was shown this link in another post that clearly shows the trade changes Carney has been working on. It’s well put together: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/features/2025/canada-international-trade/

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                              • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

                                You prefer Trump lite? (The conservative party of Canada)

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                                hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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                                I hate that Canada has devolved into a two-party state.

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                                • A archangel1313@lemmy.ca

                                  Lol! Canada can shut off the power to the entire North Eastern seaboard. We can also coordinate with our European allies and start selling off all our US bonds, effectively tanking the value of the US dollar.

                                  That’s leverage.

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                                  karlhungus@lemmy.ca
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                                  Against a reasonable politician it would be. Wouldn’t they just use that as an excuse to declare war and annex us. Using that same war to cancel elections and stay in power?

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                                  • J jack_burton@lemmy.ca

                                    I’m disappointed in Carney but admittedly don’t have enough info to fully justify feeling that yet. There’s a lot of nuance at that level and it does seem like Carney is shifting our interests to other markets.

                                    My hope is he’s stringing the US along while he makes changes, basically like setting up a place to live and work before ending an abusive relationship. I understand that cutting ties completely would cripple our economy so that’s not an option, just gonna wait for the end of his first year before I really make my opinion.

                                    I was shown this link in another post that clearly shows the trade changes Carney has been working on. It’s well put together: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/features/2025/canada-international-trade/

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                                    hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Thanks for the link.

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                                    • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

                                      I’m just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he’s there for trade talks.

                                      I’m just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.

                                      I’m not sure why anyone thinks Carney’s priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war…

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                                      whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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                                      You’re 100% right and I agree with you wholeheartedly but there is a part of me that wishes out of moral principles someone public chastised him on this bullshit. He needs a dressing down on national television regardless of the consequences.

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                                      • R resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world

                                        Trump is an expert on children’s sex.

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                                        ziltoid1991@lemmy.world
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                                        Nah, children can’t consent, so that’s rape.

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                                        • B ByteOnBikes

                                          President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

                                          The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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                                          but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                          Nah trump is just gonna take your child away with ICE and disappear them into whatever island hes setting up for Maxwell when he pardons her and gets her back to running Epsteins business for him

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