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  • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

    One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

    I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


    Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

    Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

    But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
    Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

    So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

    I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

    What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

    † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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    taiyang@lemmy.world
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    I grew up poor so this was a staple. Dad would add bacon and frozen veg and it never ended up costing all that much (and if you must have meat, bacon really is great calories per pack and the fat can sub in for butter). This, grilled cheese, and instant ramen with egg and spinach was 80% of my childhood (the rest being frozen foods when Dad was too drunk to cook!)

    Now that I’m older, I’ve refined it to just make carbonara with added mushrooms and spinach, but the idea is the same. Family of four plus leftovers for less than ten bucks. And if you’re even poorer, consider learning to cook with lentils or chickpeas, you can buy a lot for a solid price and go well with rice which you can also bulk up on. I had a roommate survive on like $20 a month.

    I bet soy is about to get really cheap soon, too…

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    • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

      One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

      I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


      Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

      Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

      But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
      Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

      So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

      I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

      What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

      † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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      zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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      #16

      Jeremy Clarkson gestures toward homemade bowl “this is great…”

      Gestures toward radioactive yellow noodles " …but I like this"

      Edit: sidenote, mushrooms are cheap and I feel like they would fit well in your homemade one

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      • 5 5oap10116@lemmy.world
        1. I have a soft spot for boxed mac
        2. I have spent a long time perfecting my roux/sauce/cheese blend
        3. When I decided I had perfected all those things to my liking, I realized I was lactose intolerant
        4. I made some baller mac and cheese for thanks giving last year. The dish im specifically requested to make because I kill it every year. My 7 yr old cousin tried it and said “eww this is disgusting”
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        zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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        Dump in the cheese, splash of milk if it’s available, bunch of pepper and ketchup then stir. Perfect sauce.

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        • O ohulancutash@feddit.uk

          I just cannot imagine eating any pasta dish made from a box, and I’m a culinarily lazy fuck myself. There’s just so much effortless stuff to do with pasta before you stoop so damn low.

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          jaybone@lemmy.zip
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          Other than from a box, what do you make your pasta from scratch?

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          • Z zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com

            Jeremy Clarkson gestures toward homemade bowl “this is great…”

            Gestures toward radioactive yellow noodles " …but I like this"

            Edit: sidenote, mushrooms are cheap and I feel like they would fit well in your homemade one

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            FauxPseudo
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            I do have some dried shitaki but I’m saving those for something else.

            My wife agrees with the choice of radioactive yellow noodles.

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            • T taiyang@lemmy.world

              I grew up poor so this was a staple. Dad would add bacon and frozen veg and it never ended up costing all that much (and if you must have meat, bacon really is great calories per pack and the fat can sub in for butter). This, grilled cheese, and instant ramen with egg and spinach was 80% of my childhood (the rest being frozen foods when Dad was too drunk to cook!)

              Now that I’m older, I’ve refined it to just make carbonara with added mushrooms and spinach, but the idea is the same. Family of four plus leftovers for less than ten bucks. And if you’re even poorer, consider learning to cook with lentils or chickpeas, you can buy a lot for a solid price and go well with rice which you can also bulk up on. I had a roommate survive on like $20 a month.

              I bet soy is about to get really cheap soon, too…

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              FauxPseudo
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              I loved off donated bacon grease, potatoes and grilled ham and cheese for half a year once. Ramen and PB&J another period. That was in the 90s. Not quite $20 but too close to it.

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              • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                I do have some dried shitaki but I’m saving those for something else.

                My wife agrees with the choice of radioactive yellow noodles.

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                zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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                Too fancy, a couple bulk white mushrooms for like a buck will do

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                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                  One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

                  I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


                  Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

                  Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

                  But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
                  Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

                  So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

                  I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

                  What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

                  † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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                  tikiporch@lemmy.world
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                  Add some canned chicken and call it Chicken Alfredo.

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                  • Z zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com

                    Too fancy, a couple bulk white mushrooms for like a buck will do

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                    FauxPseudo
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                    I’m in a food desert. No bulk mushrooms for 30 miles. Probably not even then unless Sprouts has them. Might be closer to 45 miles.

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                    • T tikiporch@lemmy.world

                      Add some canned chicken and call it Chicken Alfredo.

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                      FauxPseudo
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                      I only make Alfredo if she specifically requests it. And that’s a different recipe of just cream and parm, no butter or flour. And most importantly, no chicken. She likes it basic. Like her mac and cheese.

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                      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                        Everyone should consult their doctor before dating TexasDrunk.

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                        Look, not to sound snobbish but I’d never date anyone who would have such low standards as to date me.

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                        • W wolf314159@startrek.website

                          Nobody else grow up on tuna casserole?

                          I don’t know the exact recipe, but it was basically canned tuna, frozen mixed vegetables (diced carrots, corn, peas, and Lima beans was the favorite in my house), and macaroni and chees. This all goes into a casserole dish and is cooked somehow (probably overn, I don’t know, child me didn’t worry about such trivialities). The crumbles at the end of a bag of ruffles would be sprinkled over the top of this before baking to add a bit of crunch.

                          I couldn’t count how many times we ate this growing up. It’s been a few decades, and the nostalgia is real, but I still have no inclination to make it for myself. If lower middle class had a flavor it’s that mélange of canned tuna, fake cheese, and lima beans.

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                          renrenpdx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          I had this, but it was a can of cream of mushroom soup (no water) mixed with tuna and elbow mac, then put in a casserole dish and baked until brown on top.

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                          • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                            I’m in a food desert. No bulk mushrooms for 30 miles. Probably not even then unless Sprouts has them. Might be closer to 45 miles.

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                            zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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                            Well, then may I suggest a box of Mac and cheese with a nice sturdy shelf life 😆

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                            • W wolf314159@startrek.website

                              Nobody else grow up on tuna casserole?

                              I don’t know the exact recipe, but it was basically canned tuna, frozen mixed vegetables (diced carrots, corn, peas, and Lima beans was the favorite in my house), and macaroni and chees. This all goes into a casserole dish and is cooked somehow (probably overn, I don’t know, child me didn’t worry about such trivialities). The crumbles at the end of a bag of ruffles would be sprinkled over the top of this before baking to add a bit of crunch.

                              I couldn’t count how many times we ate this growing up. It’s been a few decades, and the nostalgia is real, but I still have no inclination to make it for myself. If lower middle class had a flavor it’s that mélange of canned tuna, fake cheese, and lima beans.

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                              redhorsejacket@lemmy.world
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                              Midwesterner checking in to say this post tastes like lunch at the babysitter’s house. She didn’t go for the full mixed veg gamut tho, preferring frozen peas alone.

                              Despite the inevitable disappointment, I feel a vague desire to fix a dish of it for dinner.

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                              • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

                                I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


                                Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

                                Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

                                But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
                                Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

                                So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

                                I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

                                What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

                                † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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                                oneoverzero@sh.itjust.works
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                                I’m kinda surprised homemade mac is that much more expensive. Red bell pepper is a lot more than green at least where I am though. Anyway, your homemade recipe looks delicious. 50x the flavor of boxed mac in my opinion.

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                                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                  One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

                                  I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


                                  Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

                                  Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

                                  But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
                                  Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

                                  So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

                                  I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

                                  What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

                                  † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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                                  zexks@lemmy.world
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                                  Not only is that over a $400 a year difference on just mac and cheese. Youre lying about the time difference or you have a really hard time opening boxes. There is no way it only took you 4 minutes difference to cut up all that and prep your sauce than it was to boil a pot and open a box and a pack of dust. Even if you tried to notch it up with milk and butter its still nothing compared to the prep of the homemade. You have to boil and stir in both but only cut up and wash itensils for one.

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                                  • Z zexks@lemmy.world

                                    Not only is that over a $400 a year difference on just mac and cheese. Youre lying about the time difference or you have a really hard time opening boxes. There is no way it only took you 4 minutes difference to cut up all that and prep your sauce than it was to boil a pot and open a box and a pack of dust. Even if you tried to notch it up with milk and butter its still nothing compared to the prep of the homemade. You have to boil and stir in both but only cut up and wash itensils for one.

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                                    FauxPseudo
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                                    You dramatically overestimate the frequency of our Mac and cheese consumption.

                                    You also overestimate how long it takes to chop. If I had my wife do it then it would have taken 30 minutes. I don’t think you realize how fast one can make a cheese sauce. The total difference was 4 minutes cooking time, I think you didn’t count the amount of time it takes for the water to get up to boil. That’s dead time used to prep the cheese sauce.

                                    I invite you to try the comparison yourself and get practical data instead of incorrect guessing.

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                                    • O oneoverzero@sh.itjust.works

                                      I’m kinda surprised homemade mac is that much more expensive. Red bell pepper is a lot more than green at least where I am though. Anyway, your homemade recipe looks delicious. 50x the flavor of boxed mac in my opinion.

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                                      FauxPseudo
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                                      The cost here for red is more than 2x the price of green, and after growing my own I’m surprised that it’s that low. It’s not just more time but more chances that something will go wrong. My chickens found a way into the garden and destroyed every pepper with a hint of red on it in 30 minutes.

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                                      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                        One of our local Facebook groups is now filled with “feed a family of four for $10 by spending $7 on ground beef or dumpling cans of stuff into a pot” type posts because of the looming hungergeddon with SNAP being withheld.

                                        I posted this to show the difference between what is probably the cheapest cook it yourself full meal in a box and the homemade version.


                                        Since we are posting cheap meals here is a comparison of buying for the meal and buying for the pantry.

                                        Mac and cheese two ways. I went to cook dinner but only found one box of mac and cheese. Well my wife only wanted basic mac and cheese with a single smoked sausage cut in half. Easy. She gets the boxed stuff. Cost of hers was $1.63

                                        But what was my dinner going to be? The same but different. The last of an onion, a small bell pepper from the garden†, 4 oz of Colby Jack left over from yesterday, one smoked sausage like hers, 4 oz of elbow mac, milk, butter, flour. Cost for mine: $2.81. These two bowls are almost identical in calories. More than double the cost?
                                        Calories in her bowl: ~1580 Calories on mine: ~1800 calories

                                        So the homemade version is almost 42% more than hers but on a nutrition and flavor level they can’t compare at a the 78¢ difference.

                                        I didn’t intentionally buy anything to make my specific meal. It was made from pantry staples that I always have on hand and can be bought in bulk. Flexible ingredients that can be combined in infinite combinations on the fly. It’s not just cheap it lets you solve cravings without going out.

                                        What’s the time difference between these two meals? About 4 minutes. And that was entirely because the elbow mac is better quality than boxed and takes longer to cook. The bechamel cheese sauce and the pepper, sausage and onion mix all cooked while the pasta was cooking.

                                        † literally free because I got the seeds from the library and planted in the ground, seed starter tray, no mulch, no fertilizer.

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                                        All mac & cheese is good mac & chese, IMO.

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                                          All mac & cheese is good mac & chese, IMO.

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                                          Velveeta based Mac and cheese is not.
                                          I live in The South. I got a bbq place down the road. I went there shortly after moving here. Their Mac and cheese is a 4 ounce Styrofoam cup of Velveeta Mac. Disappointing on size, style, composition, flavor and every other loss metric. I get cravings for bbq. I have never once gone back in 8 years. It ruined the whole place for me.

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