I don’t even play Apex Legends and I’m still a bit butthurt to this day that they decided to add anti-cheat that broke Linux compatibility. They say it helped bring the amount of cheaters down though, but who can really tell besides those who collect the numbers - which is them.

Developers should still try to optimize Linux performance with native Linux ports.

Make anti cheat work… That’s the real issue no?

There are Anti-Cheats that work just not one or two of the truly invasive ones. I’m able to play games like the Finals or Arc Raiders or CSGO or DOTA or World of Tanks or Insurgency or Battlebit without issue. I can’t play some multiplayer games owned by EA. It’s largely coming down to company lines based on what Anti-Cheat they’ve decided to go with.

It used to be not all games worked on Linux. Now it’s most games work and there’s a handful that don’t for one reason or the other (like Anti-Cheat).

For every game that breaks compatibility due to anti-cheat there’s 100s more new games that don’t have it and probably run on Linux just fine. So on average, the compatibility always goes up.

The game is Steam Deck verified and the developer even noted that Steam Deck support for the new anti-cheat was tested before release. I played a few hours right after release and it worked fine, so not sure when “initially” is.

I am getting ready to switch and I play City of Heroes on Homecoming and wonder of anyone here has it running and what destro you are using. I ahve Mint on two laptops and they are running fine will all my other programs

Doom ran at 100+ fps at 4k on my 1070ti with graphics maxed out. It’s hard to tell what optimization allows it, but the game runs way better than anything else that looks at least as good.

At what point does Microsoft start suing over patents?

They mean by percentage, for one thing. And new games come out all the time.

It’s not one big optimization, it’s a product of Id actually having some of the best UE developers on the planet being able to tweak the engine to run like a beast. Each level is crafted from the ground up to allow for some sweeping optimizations revolving around actor loading and culling, and the game uses proper light baking to allow raytracing to handle marginal calculations instead of explicit path tracing every shadow. It’s a lot of little things that all take impressive amounts of skill and management to pull off effectively, a lot of this stuff is implemented poorly in other games and it show

Edit: Id has their own engine, I always confuse quake/doom and UE. Still though, Id has always built games that were well optimized. Look at some of the systems they managed to port quake to. I was wrong about the engine, but not about the talent in the studio.s.

My wife plays it. She’s on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (so I’d expect it to work on Mint too), installed it through Bottles, and it just worked. I’m on Kubuntu 25.10 and I’ve had it running but haven’t actually played it.

Problem is even when they do, they don’t maintain support. Borderlands 2 has a native port but it hasn’t been updated while the windows version had received new content and patches in the years since.

As far as I know, Microsoft has no patents related to linux and how it can run Windows games. Everything has been reimplemented from scratch on the linux side, there’s no shared IP or patented techniques being used.

I’m not sure if they really have standing for that.

But even if they did, Microsoft don’t have the guts because cracking down it would be akin to a direct attack on Valve and Steam. And at this point I think we can all agree that Microsoft needs Steam more than Valve needs Windows.

They likely have patents on a number of things implemented in Wine/Proton. Clean-room implementation is also good, buy would cover copyright, not patent.

It’s still happening in some cases. Like Balder’s Gate 3 getting a recent Linux port, for example.

Right, they clearly don’t believe it has been worth the effort in the past. At a certain point I’ve always worried that they might.

What patents?

I don’t have a list. Just considering that MS patents EVERYTHING I have a tough time believing they don’t have patents over at least SOME DirectX things that Wine has created an implementation for, etc.