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  • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

    Fuck Trump, fuck the USA. We will never be a state.

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    Avid Amoeba
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    #35

    That’s right. We’d be a territory. 😅

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    • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

      Not going to happen.

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      arkouda@lemmy.ca
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      #36

      The information I have seen leads me to believe that something really fucking bad is about to happen, and WW3 is about to kick off for real.

      • Canada and the US are still far apart on any “deal” that would see the tariffs go away, and Canadians likely are never going back even if the relationship thawed politically.

      • Trump renamed the “Department of Defense”, to the “Department of War”

      • Trump is currently sending troops to Portland. (I believe I read it was close to 1,800. Please correct me if wrong)

      • Days later, Trump starts talking 51st state bullshit again.

      • Let us not forget that Putin and Trump are friends, and any issues between them are 100% performative.

      Meanwhile:

      • China seems to be readying an attack on Taiwan.

      • China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

      • China is also buying up anything they can to get rights to our rare earth minerals.

      Meanwhile:

      • Russia has also been poking around the Arctic.

      • Russia has been invading NATO airspace for some time now, specifically around where the leaders will gathered this week.

      • Reports of Russia potentially opening up a NATO front in the war with Ukraine.

      Meanwhile:

      • Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

      • North Korea has been pushing some boundaries recently with South Korea.

      I am missing a lot because I am just pulling from my memory (As an example the Saudi/Pakistan treaty that I didn’t read into enough) but it just looks like this is it. I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I don’t see these signals going any other way than directly to Global war.

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      • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

        That’s right. We’d be a territory. 😅

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        circav@lemmy.ca
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        #37

        Nah we’d be a “protectorate” like Guam, Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands. Plus a neverending insurgency for good measure. 🖕🇺🇸♾️

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        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

          The information I have seen leads me to believe that something really fucking bad is about to happen, and WW3 is about to kick off for real.

          • Canada and the US are still far apart on any “deal” that would see the tariffs go away, and Canadians likely are never going back even if the relationship thawed politically.

          • Trump renamed the “Department of Defense”, to the “Department of War”

          • Trump is currently sending troops to Portland. (I believe I read it was close to 1,800. Please correct me if wrong)

          • Days later, Trump starts talking 51st state bullshit again.

          • Let us not forget that Putin and Trump are friends, and any issues between them are 100% performative.

          Meanwhile:

          • China seems to be readying an attack on Taiwan.

          • China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

          • China is also buying up anything they can to get rights to our rare earth minerals.

          Meanwhile:

          • Russia has also been poking around the Arctic.

          • Russia has been invading NATO airspace for some time now, specifically around where the leaders will gathered this week.

          • Reports of Russia potentially opening up a NATO front in the war with Ukraine.

          Meanwhile:

          • Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

          • North Korea has been pushing some boundaries recently with South Korea.

          I am missing a lot because I am just pulling from my memory (As an example the Saudi/Pakistan treaty that I didn’t read into enough) but it just looks like this is it. I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I don’t see these signals going any other way than directly to Global war.

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          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          #38

          Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

          That’s a bit dramatic. They agreed to some deals, and wrote a press statement about how they’re BFFs. There’s still no way in hell Russia trusts either, and so vice verse, and NK/China relations are a whole weird thing. Ditto for India and China, which have made the impressive step of no longer openly beating each other with literal sticks over territory.

          But yes, there are many, many powder kegs waiting to go off. The only question is if it could actually go hot, or it will stop at proxy wars, espionage and tradefare like the last time.

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          • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

            That’s right. We’d be a territory. 😅

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            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            #39

            I actually think he means statehood, since he very noticeably never offered it to the less-traditionally-white nation of Greenland.

            It’s still a booby deal in several other ways.

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            • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

              Not going to happen.

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              HubertManne
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              #40

              OK I get it but you know my state would make a great provence.

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              • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                Not going to happen.

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                indridcold@lemmy.ca
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                #41

                Hey USA. Your boy is on the front lawn in his diapers eating dog shit again. Maybe collect him before he gets away?

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                • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                  Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

                  That’s a bit dramatic. They agreed to some deals, and wrote a press statement about how they’re BFFs. There’s still no way in hell Russia trusts either, and so vice verse, and NK/China relations are a whole weird thing. Ditto for India and China, which have made the impressive step of no longer openly beating each other with literal sticks over territory.

                  But yes, there are many, many powder kegs waiting to go off. The only question is if it could actually go hot, or it will stop at proxy wars, espionage and tradefare like the last time.

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                  arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  #42

                  North Korea and Russia have a military alliance as North Korean soldiers were fighting in Ukraine with Russia under Russian control.

                  I agree that it is a press statement being BFFs, but China has been supporting Russia’s war efforts with Russia saying they would also support Chinese war efforts. It is definitely a weird alliance, and they most certainly do not trust each other, but they are clearly working together to be a counter to “Western” influence and are likely going to increase military, intelligence, and trade ties.

                  I hope that it stops at proxy wars, espionage, and tradefare. I just do not see it as likely given the climate.

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                  • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                    Or, maybe it’s not (just) distraction. Maybe he is seeding interest amongst the Canadian magatards. Maybe this is designed to give traction to Dani Smith and her ilk, to create division and internal strife.

                    Maybe Trump and the repubs have been following a playbook for all his Canada talk… maybe Putin’s playbook on Ukraine.

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                    panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                    #43

                    Yeah, it sounds too much like Russia and Crimea to me.

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                    • N NotSteve_

                      I feel like they’d do better as territories. Even the more left leaning US states have a very different political culture that I wouldn’t want imported into Canada

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                      programmingsocks@pawb.social
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                      #44

                      I don’t know about you but as a lifelong Albertan my life would improve if my city had even a little bit of the culture of like, Seattle. I’m not guessing, I have been there and it would be a place I’d consider moving if they weren’t under fascist dictatorship keen on eradicating my people.

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                        No Name goose

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                        showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website
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                        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                          The information I have seen leads me to believe that something really fucking bad is about to happen, and WW3 is about to kick off for real.

                          • Canada and the US are still far apart on any “deal” that would see the tariffs go away, and Canadians likely are never going back even if the relationship thawed politically.

                          • Trump renamed the “Department of Defense”, to the “Department of War”

                          • Trump is currently sending troops to Portland. (I believe I read it was close to 1,800. Please correct me if wrong)

                          • Days later, Trump starts talking 51st state bullshit again.

                          • Let us not forget that Putin and Trump are friends, and any issues between them are 100% performative.

                          Meanwhile:

                          • China seems to be readying an attack on Taiwan.

                          • China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

                          • China is also buying up anything they can to get rights to our rare earth minerals.

                          Meanwhile:

                          • Russia has also been poking around the Arctic.

                          • Russia has been invading NATO airspace for some time now, specifically around where the leaders will gathered this week.

                          • Reports of Russia potentially opening up a NATO front in the war with Ukraine.

                          Meanwhile:

                          • Russia, China, and North Korea are in an open alliance.

                          • North Korea has been pushing some boundaries recently with South Korea.

                          I am missing a lot because I am just pulling from my memory (As an example the Saudi/Pakistan treaty that I didn’t read into enough) but it just looks like this is it. I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I don’t see these signals going any other way than directly to Global war.

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                          humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                          China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

                          Categorically false. Everything else you said is propaganda speculation. South Korea, recently, has made closer relations with DPRK.

                          Anyway, you’re probably just very confused, but which side of WW3 do you want Canada to be on? No Trump and Russia will not be on same side.

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                          • I indridcold@lemmy.ca

                            Hey USA. Your boy is on the front lawn in his diapers eating dog shit again. Maybe collect him before he gets away?

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                            apftwb@lemmy.world
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                            #47

                            Sorry. He does that some times. We are working on it. Don’t let him inside. Just try to ignore him for now and he might go away.

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                            • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                              Not going to happen.

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                              grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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                              #48

                              Give Canadians 96 hours notice, we are closing up shop, come across and get back home, and close the border. You don’t hold open borders against invaders.

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                              • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                                Or, maybe it’s not (just) distraction. Maybe he is seeding interest amongst the Canadian magatards. Maybe this is designed to give traction to Dani Smith and her ilk, to create division and internal strife.

                                Maybe Trump and the repubs have been following a playbook for all his Canada talk… maybe Putin’s playbook on Ukraine.

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                                grindinggears@lemmy.ca
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #49

                                It is, it’s by design.

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                                • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                                  Not going to happen.

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                                  samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Why does he think ALL of Canada should be a single state, anyway?

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                                    China has been observed in our Arctic waters.

                                    Categorically false. Everything else you said is propaganda speculation. South Korea, recently, has made closer relations with DPRK.

                                    Anyway, you’re probably just very confused, but which side of WW3 do you want Canada to be on? No Trump and Russia will not be on same side.

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                                    • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                                      Not going to happen.

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                                      theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
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                                      He’s not kidding. The whole “no rules of engagement” speech by Hegseth, Canada should be preparing a drone army by now, Ukraine style.

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                                      • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS samus12345@sh.itjust.works

                                        Why does he think ALL of Canada should be a single state, anyway?

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                                        hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Because he doesn’t actually understand how any of this works.

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                                          Just because its been written doesn’t mean its remotely true. “Evil China is interested in the Arctic” does not mean China has entered Canadian waters. They don’t need to to go to Europe. Nothing ever said about Russia has any motive of truth behind it. The drones BS over Denmark is obvious false flag. The ones that went to Poland came from Ukrainian airspace. The propaganda level is absurdly high, and your mind distorts it even stronger. Reading more cannot cure disinformation if you trust the sources.

                                          But, again, in your mind whether rational or warped, you need to use Canadian forces to amplify US ambitions in ww3, don’t you? There is nothing that makes you understand the US side is the threat?

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