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Nintendo’s Monster Capturing Patent Got Rejected by Japan’s Patent Office Due to Lack of Originality

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  • I Cast FistI I Cast Fist

    Nintendo argues that this gameplay method is protected by copyright. However, the Japan Patent Office rejected the application, citing that the patent lacked originality as similar mechanics already existed in prior games.

    Get rekt. Game mechanics cannot be copyrighted, though I dunno how Japanese law treats that. But it’s good that the display of previous art, with even Craftopia being listed and accepted as one that had the same “monster capturing” mechanic, despite that game being originally a “Breath of the Wild clone with crafting survival”

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    JohnEdwa
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    #48

    Game mechanics cannot be copyrighted

    They can’t, and that’s why this was a patent case. And they certainly can be patented.

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    • nuko147@lemmy.worldN nuko147@lemmy.world

      I bet their lawyers have cost more than the whole Palworld production.

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      underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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      #49

      Pokemon, as a franchise, is worth it to monopolize.

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      • A arrow74@lemmy.zip

        See this is where you ignored the last part of my comment. If you hadn’t you’d get why the Harley example makes absolutely no sense

        Nintendo could make some pretty small QOL adjustments that would make older fans very happy and not really make much of a difference at all to younger fans.

        I never suggested to make their games more mature. There’s plenty to do that’s still friendly to their target demographic that would still keep the older demographics engaged

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        stray@pawb.social
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        #50

        A simple demonstration of this are the Yugioh and Digimon franchises which consistently appeal to a wide age range.

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        • A arrow74@lemmy.zip

          See this is where you ignored the last part of my comment. If you hadn’t you’d get why the Harley example makes absolutely no sense

          Nintendo could make some pretty small QOL adjustments that would make older fans very happy and not really make much of a difference at all to younger fans.

          I never suggested to make their games more mature. There’s plenty to do that’s still friendly to their target demographic that would still keep the older demographics engaged

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          flexibletoast@lemmy.world
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          #51

          See this is where you ignored the last part of my comment. If you hadn’t you’d get why the Harley example makes absolutely no sense

          I’m blind in that case because I don’t see anything that contradicts the Harley example in your statement.

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            midaba@lemmy.ml
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            #52

            Patients don’t protect small inventors anymore. They are now just systems to protect large corporations from competition. Patients are instead now weaponized against local businesses and small inventors. We need major world wide patient reform.

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            • S stray@pawb.social

              A simple demonstration of this are the Yugioh and Digimon franchises which consistently appeal to a wide age range.

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              arrow74@lemmy.zip
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              #53

              A toggleable hard mode is really that much to ask for?

              A menu option to disable exp share?

              Fuck man just give me another pokeathlon

              I don’t see how any of these optional things would ruin the expirence, be expensive to implement, or are that much to ask for.

              Hell I’d love to be able to go into buildings again, but I guess that would ruin the games irrevocably

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              • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

                Not to Nintendo or Gamefreak. They care more about their next customer, not their current customer.

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                mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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                #54

                You’re completely missing/ingoring mine and the other user’s point.

                Sure, they might focus on a certain demographic as theur customer, but that’s not what actually makes them money. They’re not paying attention to reality and it’s going to bite them in the ass

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                • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

                  See this is where you ignored the last part of my comment. If you hadn’t you’d get why the Harley example makes absolutely no sense

                  I’m blind in that case because I don’t see anything that contradicts the Harley example in your statement.

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                  arrow74@lemmy.zip
                  wrote on last edited by arrow74@lemmy.zip
                  #55

                  Maybe when I said they didn’t need “radical changes” you thought I meant they shouldn’t change the games? Because I meant they wouldn’t have to make any radical changes to their current products to make them more appealing to their older fans. I’m saying they could keep basically all the changes that make the modern games modern and add some simple things like menu options for difficulty and maybe some optional content similar to old events (contests, pokeathelon, etc.) or a really a long list of small tweaks that dobt change the modern games much at all. Just enough change to make them more appealing and challenging for those that want that.

                  That could be the confusion.

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                  • M mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works

                    I’ve seen several threads on Lemmy of fanboys defending Nintendo. They just haven’t gotten to this thread yet

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                    iegod
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                    #56

                    I think you’re projecting and looking for something that isn’t here. Relax.

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                    • M137M M137

                      That just isn’t true. Pokemon never became unpopular, but only had some lesser years. I have a 13 yo half brother and pokemon has been an ever popular thing in his whole school.

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                      theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip
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                      #57

                      Well I will shut up then, it seems I’m not around kids enough to know what they are into.

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                      • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                        x00z@lemmy.world
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                        #58

                        Imagine if only Need for Speed racing games were allowed to exist, or the only allowed shooter game was Call of Duty.

                        Fuck Nintendo.

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                        • M midaba@lemmy.ml

                          Patients don’t protect small inventors anymore. They are now just systems to protect large corporations from competition. Patients are instead now weaponized against local businesses and small inventors. We need major world wide patient reform.

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                          bananatrifleviolin@lemmy.world
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                          #59

                          I think your auto-correct has gone wrong; patients rather than patents 3 times.

                          Totally agree with your point though. I’d extend it to include copyright reform as well as patents; intellectual property rights are being abused globally and used as a way to abuse citizens.

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                          • I iegod

                            I think you’re projecting and looking for something that isn’t here. Relax.

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                            mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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                            Ah, yes. Just gaslight me. Real mature.

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                            • M mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works

                              Ah, yes. Just gaslight me. Real mature.

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                              iegod
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                              #61

                              In your mind I’m sure that makes sense. Cheers.

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                              • x00z@lemmy.worldX x00z@lemmy.world

                                Imagine if only Need for Speed racing games were allowed to exist, or the only allowed shooter game was Call of Duty.

                                Fuck Nintendo.

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                                brem
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                                #62

                                Next up: Nintendo tries to patent jumping; citing Mario

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                                • M midaba@lemmy.ml

                                  Patients don’t protect small inventors anymore. They are now just systems to protect large corporations from competition. Patients are instead now weaponized against local businesses and small inventors. We need major world wide patient reform.

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                                  brem
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                                  #63

                                  Everything is owned by a few corporations operating umbrella companies that make up the illusion of competition

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                                  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                                    Pokemon, as a franchise, is worth it to monopolize.

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                                    rbnsft@lemmy.world
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                                    If they did something good with it sure… But they are like Lego… Not much value for the price compared to others…

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                                    • M mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works

                                      You’re completely missing/ingoring mine and the other user’s point.

                                      Sure, they might focus on a certain demographic as theur customer, but that’s not what actually makes them money. They’re not paying attention to reality and it’s going to bite them in the ass

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                                      velypso@sh.itjust.works
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                                      But be honest here.

                                      Has it ever bit them in the ass?

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                                      • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

                                        Nintendo doesnt care about the things you care about, and never will.

                                        That’s exactly why Palworld has done so well. Nintendo/Gamefreak left that demographic untouched and ripe for someone to come along and cater to them. Nintendo decided that instead of competing for that demographic they would rather try to use the legal system to beat Palworld.

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                                        velypso@sh.itjust.works
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                                        #66

                                        My point here is that this guy has supported Nintendo for 40 fucking years and now has finally stopped despite Nintendo always having been the way they are.

                                        At no point have they been a good company, and likely, will never be a good company.

                                        But now, after spending literal decades shipping the brand, he has stopped.

                                        Its honestly hilarious.

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                                          tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                          #67

                                          how about actually innovate your games, instead allowing Masuda to make slop after slop. from switch on, thier games largely degenerated in quality compared to previous generations.

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