<![CDATA[Well, this is unfortunate.]]>Well, this is unfortunate.

"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

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Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/topic/7daaba82-40da-4182-900f-307080a06f04/well-this-is-unfortunate.RSS for NodeTue, 07 Apr 2026 12:04:55 GMTFri, 03 Apr 2026 13:04:49 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:11:11 GMT]]>__Miguel_ Yes, their CEO’s behaviour has been a significant red flag, and I think we’re going to continue finding out that they’ve been lying for years as they’ve moved to comply in advance on this wave of anti-privacy bills being tossed around the world.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/539https://wanderingadventure.party/post/539Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:11:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:05:57 GMT]]>@danvolchek no idea.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/116341627796554642https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/116341627796554642Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:05:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:05:15 GMT]]>@Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danvolchek/statuses/116341625006564331https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/danvolchek/statuses/116341625006564331Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:05:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:03:32 GMT]]>@JakeKb @Gina we use BigBlueButton. It sometimes glitches, but usually it works fine

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fnordon.de/users/bleistifterin/statuses/116341618282752129https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fnordon.de/users/bleistifterin/statuses/116341618282752129Fri, 03 Apr 2026 16:03:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:39:19 GMT]]>@Gina
No bueno.
This stinks.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bentley_lucas/statuses/116341523047045548https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bentley_lucas/statuses/116341523047045548Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:39:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:33:57 GMT]]>@regendans @JakeKb @Gina
Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.

I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bentley_lucas/statuses/116341501957626580https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/bentley_lucas/statuses/116341501957626580Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:33:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:31:14 GMT]]>@caitp to be honest, I don't think there is a solution for streaming of video to huge groups of people (ex. twitch-like)

but if it is just a meeting with a few people maybe some p2p calls like using webrtc could work, it would be all end-to-end encrypted and without needing to trust any company and also near zero server costs for them

@Gina

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341491300540589https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341491300540589Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:31:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:28:39 GMT]]>@arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mstdn.social/users/caitp/statuses/116341481118903757https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mstdn.social/users/caitp/statuses/116341481118903757Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:28:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:27:05 GMT]]>@arcanechat @imacrea @Gina Sadly the fedi has no shortage of people who keep stanning for discredited "private email" and "private messenger" scammers. 😫

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341474955759480https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341474955759480Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:27:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:25:59 GMT]]>@dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

@imacrea @Gina

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341470605431532https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341470605431532Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:25:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:22:53 GMT]]>@Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341458420326361https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/ap/users/115532410310000993/statuses/116341458420326361Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:22:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:20:45 GMT]]>@JakeKb @Gina signal

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GOKUSHRM/statuses/116341450031437919https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GOKUSHRM/statuses/116341450031437919Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:20:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:18:29 GMT]]>@Gina from 1 cloud trap (Google) to another cloud trap (Proton). ☺️

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GOKUSHRM/statuses/116341441123830309https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/GOKUSHRM/statuses/116341441123830309Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:18:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:01:27 GMT]]>@Gina disappointing, but not entirely unexpected

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/Gabs/statuses/116341374166823524https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodonapp.uk/users/Gabs/statuses/116341374166823524Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:01:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:53:55 GMT]]>@privateger @Gina Proton products have always been snake oil. I think people *want* to believe they’re the good guys, for lack of easy alternatives.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116184241391043871/statuses/116341344545152621https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://social.tchncs.de/ap/users/116184241391043871/statuses/116341344545152621Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:53:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:37:00 GMT]]>@Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://plasmatrap.com/notes/akmkn94jykhttps://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://plasmatrap.com/notes/akmkn94jykFri, 03 Apr 2026 14:37:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:35:09 GMT]]>@Gina Das ist ja mal ein riesiger Schuss in den Fuß ... warum?

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://colearn.social/users/simondueckert/statuses/116341270740478307https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://colearn.social/users/simondueckert/statuses/116341270740478307Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:35:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:26:16 GMT]]>@imacrea @Gina Did you seriously just snitch-tag? 🙄

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341235779045742https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341235779045742Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:26:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:25:10 GMT]]>@Gina @JakeKb Seriously, Signal. I switched from Jitsi to Signal for meetings on the project I'm working on now, because of minor technical issues, and it's worked better anyway.

Now, Signal might not meet your needs for this if participants don't want to disclose their Signal usernames/phone-numbers, since Signal doesn't really do "multiple accounts" like they should. But if it does work, it's great, and actually private.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341231456359141https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341231456359141Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:25:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:21:59 GMT]]>@Gina Of course they did. Because Proton is owned by a fan of fascism.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341218968187474https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/dalias/statuses/116341218968187474Fri, 03 Apr 2026 14:21:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:49:48 GMT]]>@JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.

Just a moment...

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(support.signal.org)

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://todon.eu/users/regendans/statuses/116341092443051128https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://todon.eu/users/regendans/statuses/116341092443051128Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:49:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:49:44 GMT]]>@JakeKb I'd recommend for individual users.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/116341092132633538https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://fosstodon.org/users/Gina/statuses/116341092132633538Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:49:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:47:11 GMT]]>@Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
I'm glad things like these are coming to the light.

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/nanianmichaels/statuses/116341082106538016https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://tech.lgbt/users/nanianmichaels/statuses/116341082106538016Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:47:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Well, this is unfortunate. on Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:45:43 GMT]]>@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

]]>https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JakeKb/statuses/116341076328950987https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https://mastodon.social/users/JakeKb/statuses/116341076328950987Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:45:43 GMT