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Canada Post’s Moment Of Reckoning May Finally Be Here

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  • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

    Why do any of those need door to door delivery on a daily basis? None of them are that urgent.

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    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    #68

    Delivery time always massively exceeds a reasonable pickup time, yeah.

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    • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

      We still have a population where some members do not have cell phones or can’t operate a computer well enough to deal with e-life. Letters are still around for some time for billing, statements, property notices, legal services, etc

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      canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      #69

      Yeah, I know. You can get them from a communal box too. I do.

      Accessibility has been mentioned, but as far as I know a special program for people who are totally housebound has been proposed for that.

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      • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

        Right so you courier it to CP, and it may sit if you missed the outgoing weekly date.

        Dates that you say are to allow for mail, but that is on a daily delivery schedule, you add several weeks delay, and businesses are now floating more coat longere. Maybe 45 days instead of 21 etc.

        I agree mail sucks in a digital age, but people aren’t there yet.

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        chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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        #70

        No, it’s not an outgoing weekly date. Mail gets sorted and transmitted to destination post offices every day. The only thing that happens once a week is delivery to / pickup from the community mailbox. And which day that happens on depends on which neighbourhood you live in.

        Think of it like waste collection. It happens every day but each neighbourhood only gets collected once a week. I may get mine collected on Tuesdays but my friend who lives in a different area gets his collected on Wednesdays. Meanwhile, the normal operations of the landfill are running every weekday.

        What this means is that the postal workers who just work in the post office sorting and filling trucks continue working every day as normal. However, the postal workers who drive around and fill up the community mailboxes will work a different route each day of the week. This means one postal worker can serve 5 times as many addresses as they currently do right now (where the same postal worker drives the same route every day). Additionally, that one worker will be carrying a full 7 days worth of mail to deliver to that community rather than only a single day worth of mail (or 3 days worth on a Monday).

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        • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

          No, it’s not an outgoing weekly date. Mail gets sorted and transmitted to destination post offices every day. The only thing that happens once a week is delivery to / pickup from the community mailbox. And which day that happens on depends on which neighbourhood you live in.

          Think of it like waste collection. It happens every day but each neighbourhood only gets collected once a week. I may get mine collected on Tuesdays but my friend who lives in a different area gets his collected on Wednesdays. Meanwhile, the normal operations of the landfill are running every weekday.

          What this means is that the postal workers who just work in the post office sorting and filling trucks continue working every day as normal. However, the postal workers who drive around and fill up the community mailboxes will work a different route each day of the week. This means one postal worker can serve 5 times as many addresses as they currently do right now (where the same postal worker drives the same route every day). Additionally, that one worker will be carrying a full 7 days worth of mail to deliver to that community rather than only a single day worth of mail (or 3 days worth on a Monday).

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          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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          I agree that would work, till the next time they want more profit and then they’d cut the first part you mentioned to be less cloection days. Mail should be a government service not a business trying to increase profits

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          • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

            I agree that would work, till the next time they want more profit and then they’d cut the first part you mentioned to be less cloection days. Mail should be a government service not a business trying to increase profits

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            chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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            #72

            There’s no profit to speak of. They’re losing billions of dollars. Those changes above would mean they lose less money, not become profitable.

            Services provided can cost money without them turning them into profit-seeking companies. Why not have a mandate to use those surpluses to upgrade service or donate to charity or something?

            What we should not be doing is writing blank cheques for services with declining demand.

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            • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

              There’s no profit to speak of. They’re losing billions of dollars. Those changes above would mean they lose less money, not become profitable.

              Services provided can cost money without them turning them into profit-seeking companies. Why not have a mandate to use those surpluses to upgrade service or donate to charity or something?

              What we should not be doing is writing blank cheques for services with declining demand.

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              bcsven@lemmy.ca
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              #73

              Canada post changed from Crown service to being run as a private business though. That’s when it turned to shit

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              • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                Canada post changed from Crown service to being run as a private business though. That’s when it turned to shit

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                chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                No, it’s a Crown corporation. It’s protected by law from competition. It’s literally illegal to run a competing mail service as a private citizen / company.

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                • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                  No, it’s a Crown corporation. It’s protected by law from competition. It’s literally illegal to run a competing mail service as a private citizen / company.

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                  bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                  #75

                  Hmm, I was thinking 2013 era when they moved to the private style running of a business, I assumed they switched, because our service her sucked after that. Guy would drive ast our house to put a “sorry we missed you” tag in the community mailbox and then drive by our house on the way back out.

                  When the community mailbox was broken into and locks were broken, there was no method to contact CP to report it. They only had report a mail delivery failure from sender end, so I had to fake a delivery address to open a ticket with them

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                  • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                    Hmm, I was thinking 2013 era when they moved to the private style running of a business, I assumed they switched, because our service her sucked after that. Guy would drive ast our house to put a “sorry we missed you” tag in the community mailbox and then drive by our house on the way back out.

                    When the community mailbox was broken into and locks were broken, there was no method to contact CP to report it. They only had report a mail delivery failure from sender end, so I had to fake a delivery address to open a ticket with them

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                    chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                    #76

                    Canada Post became a crown corporation in 1981. It attempted a restructuring between 2010-2017 where the duties of letter carriers were combined with those of mail service couriers. It backfired. There was a strike, a lockout, and Harper’s government forced postal workers back to work with binding arbitration. CP lost $253 million in 2011. Canada Post’s woes really began with the Internet which has caused worldwide mail volumes to plummet.

                    The law that made CP a crown corporation also established its government enforced monopoly on letter mail while parcel delivery remained a free market. Since then, the market price of parcels has plummeted while the price of letters has only gone up. As Canada Post has always relied on parcels to supplement its income, the falling market price for parcels has made it non-competitive in that area (except when delivering to PO Boxes, which courier services can’t do).

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                    • BrikoXB BrikoX

                      Now is the time to draw inspiration from wherever we can, and stand with workers while they fight the employer-led race to the bottom.

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                      Sab Eltodo
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                      @BrikoX Personally think they should transform Canada Post into a workers co-op.
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