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    IndescribablySad@threads.net
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    “So, you’re telling me I could have just greater restoration’d the guards rather than killing them? My god isn’t going to like this.”

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      I mean, the Barbarian asked the one question and didn’t gain anything from it. Knowing which one is the liar doesn’t… help anymore.

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      FerretyFever0
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      Ah. Normally I see this with no limit on questions. You’re right. It’d only work with at least two questions.

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        punnyname@lemmy.world
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        I’m a fan of the revised Little Mermaid song: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g

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          I’ve only heard it with one question, that’s the whole point. Otherwise you just ask a guard some trivial question (e.g. What color is the sky?) to determine which is the liar, then just ask which is the safe door.

          The whole point is to get the information you need from a single question.

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            I’ve only heard it with one question, that’s the whole point. Otherwise you just ask a guard some trivial question (e.g. What color is the sky?) to determine which is the liar, then just ask which is the safe door.

            The whole point is to get the information you need from a single question.

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            FerretyFever0
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            Maybe I’ve only seen a fucked up version.

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              skulblaka
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              PLEASE BE QUICK ABOUT IT, I HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO.

              “Uhh… Wrong door, sorry.”

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                This puzzle is always presented as difficult, but why not just ask a known? If your eyes are brown just ask “Are my eyes brown?” You’d immediately know which one lies or tells the truth.

                E: I missed the limit of one question.

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                • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                  This puzzle is always presented as difficult, but why not just ask a known? If your eyes are brown just ask “Are my eyes brown?” You’d immediately know which one lies or tells the truth.

                  E: I missed the limit of one question.

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                  edge004@lemmy.zip
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                  The difficulty comes from only being able to ask one question. It’s very easy to figure out the liar, but it’s much more difficult to figure out the liar and the correct door in the same question

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                  • R Red_October

                    I mean, the Barbarian asked the one question and didn’t gain anything from it. Knowing which one is the liar doesn’t… help anymore.

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                    seasoned_greetings@sh.itjust.works
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                    That assumes the other guy holds to his principles in the face of death. If I were the dm, the act of tearing the other guy’s head off and then threatening to do the same to the other one unless granted another question would at least grant advantage on an intimidation check

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                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                      This puzzle is always presented as difficult, but why not just ask a known? If your eyes are brown just ask “Are my eyes brown?” You’d immediately know which one lies or tells the truth.

                      E: I missed the limit of one question.

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                      seasoned_greetings@sh.itjust.works
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                      Because there are two doors and only one question. If you ask a known question unrelated to the door you find out who the liar is but lose your opportunity to ask them which is the correct door.

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                      • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                        This puzzle is always presented as difficult, but why not just ask a known? If your eyes are brown just ask “Are my eyes brown?” You’d immediately know which one lies or tells the truth.

                        E: I missed the limit of one question.

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                        Skua
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                        Then you still don’t know which door is the correct one, you’ve just learned which guard tells the truth and you’ve used up your one question. The trick is to ask which door the other guard would tell you is the correct one and then go through the other door. If you’ve asked the lying guard, they’ll lie about what the honest one would say and point you towards the wrong door. If you asked the honest one, they’ll truthfully tell you what the lying guard would say and also point you towards the wrong door

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                        • R Red_October

                          I mean, the Barbarian asked the one question and didn’t gain anything from it. Knowing which one is the liar doesn’t… help anymore.

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                          chicosuave@lemmy.world
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                          That’s why this is a brilliantly played barbarian. They think they are clever but will still have to do things the hard way.

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                            angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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                            Is there an actual plot to Mimi, or is she just a complete chaos goblin?

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                              That assumes the other guy holds to his principles in the face of death. If I were the dm, the act of tearing the other guy’s head off and then threatening to do the same to the other one unless granted another question would at least grant advantage on an intimidation check

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                              caseyweederman
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                              I’ve always seen it as outside of their control. It’s not that the lying guard chooses to lie, it’s that they’re incapable of not lying.

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                                The first time I encountered a version of this riddle it actually wasn’t Labyrinth. It was an old black and white episode of Dr Who aired on PBS when I was a little kid. Same scenario but if I recall, robots instead of guardsmen. I think the good doctor solved the riddle in the typical way of asking one robot what the other would say. I’m looking for it now but I can’t find the scene.

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                                  wowwoweowza@lemmy.world
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                                  One question per group. Also now you die because murder.

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                                    derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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                                    Simply goblin

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                                      yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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                                      I got an unexpected laugh from Rick and Mortys take on this. His answer was “you ever fuck this guys wife?” And watched them fight to the death.

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                                        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                                          This puzzle is always presented as difficult, but why not just ask a known? If your eyes are brown just ask “Are my eyes brown?” You’d immediately know which one lies or tells the truth.

                                          E: I missed the limit of one question.

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                                          JackbyDev
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                                          Knowing who lies and who tells the truth doesn’t tell you which door leads to the prize and which to death.

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