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YongYea; Execs Stupidly Claim Steam Has A Monopoly And Get Mocked...

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  • J jacksilver@lemmy.world

    I think the issue is, that if we’re going to call steam a monopoly (and maybe they are), then we’ve got to call Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo monopolies.

    What I don’t want to see is legal attacks against steam while letting worse behavior off the hook.

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    canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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    Ehh, steam only is in the PC gaming market

    In the console market, you do have 3 primary competitors, be that Microsoft, PlayStation, and Nintendo.

    In the whole gaming market maybe steam doesn’t have a Monopoly, but within the PC marketplace…

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    • G graveyardorbit@lemmy.zip

      Given how anti capitalist Lenny is purported to be I’m surprised how vehemently valve gets defended. There’s no good billionaire

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      ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      Most criticism of valve on Lemmy reads like blatant shilling.

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      • C canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca

        Ehh, steam only is in the PC gaming market

        In the console market, you do have 3 primary competitors, be that Microsoft, PlayStation, and Nintendo.

        In the whole gaming market maybe steam doesn’t have a Monopoly, but within the PC marketplace…

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        jacksilver@lemmy.world
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        I mean, the issue is these lines aren’t as concrete anymore. Is the Ps5 a console or a locked down pc?

        Hell, this is probably controversial, but Apple and Google actually have the monopoly on PC gaming. Android and Ios make the most money out of any gaming ecosystem.

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        • R ryathal@sh.itjust.works

          Most criticism of valve on Lemmy reads like blatant shilling.

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          graveyardorbit@lemmy.zip
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          Shilling for whom?

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            I mean… There are so many games that use Nexus as their preferred platform. And for older games Mod.db is still king.

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            zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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            Didn’t forget loverslab

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            • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

              Not on games per se but almost on mods. Yes, there are other platforms, but the majory and newest are on Workshop. And they make it hard to download them, if you don’t own the game on Steam (and Valve has it in their terms that they own the mods hosted on Workshop).

              So one could argue that they use the indirect peer-pressure approach to market dominance, similiar to Google on Android.

              I wouldn’t complain if they just had a “Download” button on their web version. But they don’t, you have to use the finicky steamcmd intended for server administration.

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              zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
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              Workshop is kinda shit, I don’t even bother looking there. Just Google mods which 90% of the time winds up being Nexus

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                Link to youtube video. Tracking removed.

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                imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                If we call Steam a monopoly, then we also shall name Nestle a monopoly.

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                • F faint_marble_noise@programming.dev

                  That is not true. Valve requires that you do not sell your games cheaper on other platforms, hindering competition.

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                  𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠
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                  No, they don’t want you selling Steam keys for cheap on other platforms.

                  Valve actually doesn’t earn anything from steam key sales. They don’t take the 30% cut on those, only on sales made in the Steam store. The only requirement Valve puts up is that you don’t start selling these steam keys (which are provided for free) cheaper than you can purchase the game in the Steam store.

                  I don’t see that hindering competition at all. It basically allows other marketplaces to sell Steam games, enabling competition in the first place.

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                  • G graveyardorbit@lemmy.zip

                    Shilling for whom?

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                    tattorack@lemmy.world
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                    Other corpos who cry about Valve providing a good service.

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                    • C canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca

                      If you are interested, I provided a pretty comprehensive list of definitions of a monopoly below, which steam neatly fits into!

                      Or do you want me to believe steam 100% isn’t, just believe me bro.

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                      tattorack@lemmy.world
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                      You mean those same “comprehensive” definitions that failed with my argument?

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                      • C canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca

                        Yea, it’s pretty rough for tattorack, but that’s what happens when you ignore definitions and argue in bad faith. They ignore all contrary evidence and definitions, and insit their made up definition is accurate.

                        /Shrug, some people just aren’t open to discussion .

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                        tattorack@lemmy.world
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                        Im not the ones ignoring definitions, and calling Valve a monoply is bad faith in the first place.

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                        • G graveyardorbit@lemmy.zip

                          I have 3 degrees

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                          This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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                          We don’t want to know your IQ. Sorry to hear it’s not even room temperature.

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