This place has an "Alberta" problem
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Way to perpetuate the discrimination that OP was pointing out. Geez.

The literal white supremacists in the United States pretend like the mean condescending libs âmade themâ behave like Nazis. I remember these exact same dynamics between city libs and bigoted rural alt-right
In truth they were always like that, and no amount of coddling them would have prevented it.
Enough shame might have worked though.
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I think when most people say âAlbertansâ or âpeople from Albertaâ (etc.) they mean âthe democratic majority of people from Albertaâ, or âthe stereotype of the right-wing Albertanâ. Itâs easier than saying "the majority of Albertans⊠" or âthe stereotypical truck-nutting coal-rolling AlbertanâŠâ
Iâm not saying itâs right, but people do it all the time. Let me rephrase: many people have done it and it often happens. Even you said âpeople here have a hate bone for Albertansâ because some percentage of people upvoted a post saying Albertans are pussies and a further (smaller) percentage downvoted your response.
I guess my advice would be to accept that theyâre âon your sideâ and not attacking you personally. But I know thatâs not easy. I have my own things I am (or was) a part of that get âhatedâ as a whole, so I know what it feels like to read those comments. (aka, not all programmers use AI to write their code, and even for ones that do, they donât necessarily want to.) And I canât say Iâve ever gotten past it - sometimes itâs easier than others. But, I hope what Iâm saying might help you.
Also, in general on upvote/downvote forums, I find it very easy to get a few downvotes for saying anything. Responding to explain why theyâre wrong to say that and that youâre âone of the good onesâ will always, always, get a bunch of downvotes. It doesnât matter what youâre talking about.
Building on your comments, I just want to point out that Albertaâs ridings need to be adjusted. At this point the regions are totally overweight against the cities, and they donât account for population growth. Those of us not in the democratic majority are already painfully aware that weâre all probably being gated by the UCP, the very same party that has probably been captured or compromised.
Perhaps Canadians feel like we should be able to protect our house. But also understand weâre fighting against people who have the powers of government, and are literally barring the doors shut behind them as best they can.
We are fighting a siege out here, and Iâve said as much elsewhere.
Thereâs the recent news about the Auditor General getting canned. Plus the Unions pushing Operation Total Recall have Elections Alberta asking for more funding, and the UCP is basically slow dripping the money needed to slow the public backlash their party is experiencing.
Braid: UCP dumps auditor general as he races to finish health scandal report
> On Monday morning, the UCP voted to get rid of the guy whoâs investigating the health contract scandal.
(kopitalk.net)
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I feel like an alien in Alberta. Iâm surrounded by insanity. Mostly Take Back Albertans too, like the real insane shit. My neighbor thinks that because we donât prey in schools anymore this is why children are hellions. All the worldâs problems start with us not praying in schools, makes the kids go gay. Iâm not even making this up. Iâve gotten quite adept at ninja rolling through the bushes to avoid run-ins with them.
FWIW your neighbor is unusual. Alberta is actually the second most atheist province. Even the chuddery tends to be the sleazy strip club kind, as opposed to religious.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
my brother lives there and i feel bad for him
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I AM an Albertan, and I have a hate boner for Albertans. The hate is 100% brought on by ourselves, and 100% deserved. The absolute manure that spills out of our legislature on a daily basis is embarrassing, and what is even more embarrassing is that a majority of Albertans keep voting for it, over and over. Donât want the world to see you as inbred Maple MAGA hillbillies? Maybe quit acting like inbred Maple MAGA hillbillies then. Simple as.
I am Ontarioian and i have a hate boner for my fellow Ontarioians repeatedly voting in Doug Ford, a lying populist politician who thrives on corruption. Weâre all in this together. The actions of the voters donât always represent the actions or sentiment of the entire province. Vote for voting reform to have the people better represented by our premiers.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
Thank you for speaking out, OP.
I donât hate people from X place because they are from X place. I hate people who refuse to change their destructive ways in the face of overwhelming evidence that doing A,B,C is harmful to oneself or to others. Most often, that seems to align with conservatives. Iâm also grouping some centrists in there as well, because they tend to both-sides a lot of issues when that isnât helping. âWell, maybe not all pollution is badâ. No, you hypothetical fuckwit, ALL pollution is bad.
Iâm glad you are speaking out for the sensible people who live in Alberta.
Signed, a progressive from Ontario.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
Edmontonâs cool. Calgaryâs aight. But Iâll tell you that itâs Smith and the UCP who are the ones that pretend they represent the opinion of all Albertans instead of the oil coal and gas lobby. And sure, many people donât agree with the fact that sheâs taking big government steps to prevent free-market renewables from taking hold or allow the tech industry to prosper and to use the support of a neighbouring city to put mining residue into other peopleâs water. But the fact that this is happening under the Alberta populaceâs watch reflects poorly on them.
So anyway. Nothing against you personally, but if you want a better name for your home province than Texas-north, then you have to collectively earn it. Sign that petition thing (done), organize around a general strike (in preparation) and topple the UCP government (in election or via recall petitions).
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I feel like an alien in Alberta. Iâm surrounded by insanity. Mostly Take Back Albertans too, like the real insane shit. My neighbor thinks that because we donât prey in schools anymore this is why children are hellions. All the worldâs problems start with us not praying in schools, makes the kids go gay. Iâm not even making this up. Iâve gotten quite adept at ninja rolling through the bushes to avoid run-ins with them.
Just an FYI, you pray to God and Conservatives prey on school children.
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Dude, youâre one of the worst offenders of what OP is talking about here. Iâve lost track of the number of times Iâve seen your âalbertamagastanâ comments.
A serious comment, my Albertamagastan comments are about the government. Danielle Smith tried to eliminate the legislature from the process of law making, essentially making herself the Queen of Alberta, like Trump. They are virtue signaling by attacking LGBTQ+ children, like Trump. They tried to ban books that included non-monogamous heterosexual Christian sexuality from school libraries The parallels are numerous and terrifying.
I know that not everyone in Alberta is a fascist bootlicker but there are a lot of them in government and there are a good number of very vocal ones not in government.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
Sorry, I lived too many years in Alberta to distinguish between how Alberta treats the rest of Canada, and how Albertans treat the rest of Canada. Yâall got a cultural problem out there, and I was subjected to it for the better part of a decade.
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The literal white supremacists in the United States pretend like the mean condescending libs âmade themâ behave like Nazis. I remember these exact same dynamics between city libs and bigoted rural alt-right
In truth they were always like that, and no amount of coddling them would have prevented it.
Enough shame might have worked though.
Yeah, but are you going to assume that just because someone is from a rura area that theyâre automatically alt-right nazis? Or, alternatively, that because someone is from a metropolitan area that theyâre not going to be bigoted assholes? Donât you think this is a bit prejudicial? I think thatâs what OP meant. At least thatâs how I undertand it.
Like they pointed out, just because theyâre Albertan, theyâre immediately categorized into this alt-right conervative demographic. They also provided proof that there is a progressive movement in Alberta thatâs protesting conservative ideologies.
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A serious comment, my Albertamagastan comments are about the government. Danielle Smith tried to eliminate the legislature from the process of law making, essentially making herself the Queen of Alberta, like Trump. They are virtue signaling by attacking LGBTQ+ children, like Trump. They tried to ban books that included non-monogamous heterosexual Christian sexuality from school libraries The parallels are numerous and terrifying.
I know that not everyone in Alberta is a fascist bootlicker but there are a lot of them in government and there are a good number of very vocal ones not in government.
Oh, Iâve seen you paint with a broad brush, but Iâm not going to bother to go creeping on your profile to find examples, though âAlbertaMagaStanâ stuck out because I saw you use it 3 or 4 times in a day.
Suffice to say, Iâve tried to see some of your comments as just UCP/Smith/PP hate, but it can be tough. And I (and many of the people that I farm near) utterly despise those toxic chucklefucks so getting painted with that brush pisses me off.
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Oh, Iâve seen you paint with a broad brush, but Iâm not going to bother to go creeping on your profile to find examples, though âAlbertaMagaStanâ stuck out because I saw you use it 3 or 4 times in a day.
Suffice to say, Iâve tried to see some of your comments as just UCP/Smith/PP hate, but it can be tough. And I (and many of the people that I farm near) utterly despise those toxic chucklefucks so getting painted with that brush pisses me off.
Albertamagastan refers to the province, just as MAGAstan refers to the US. Not everyone in Afghanistan agrees with the government but its still Afghanistan. Not everyone in MAGAstan agrees with the Trump fascists and Trumpist bootlickers but its still MAGAstan. You and your farmer neighbours donât make the policies but enough of the voters in your province voted for the nut job and her party that they formed a majority government. The same thing happened in Ontario. The Ford government is the most openly corrupt government in Ontario history. I didnât vote for him and I donât support him but Iâm not butthurt when people point out that the Ontario government is corrupt. It is.
The government of Alberta is playing directly from the Project 2025 playbook.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
Donât have much to add but sorry people were dicks to you and Albertans as a whole.
Left, Right, I think everyone is just so used to demonizing those with whom we disagree that folks lose sight that nowhere is a monolith and even the most Conservative province still has a huge number of Progressives (and vice versa.)
Thanks for pointing it out though. I definitely will casually drop a âfucking Albertaâ when Smith starts shit and forget how that sounds to the million(s?) who donât support her.
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Yeah, but are you going to assume that just because someone is from a rura area that theyâre automatically alt-right nazis? Or, alternatively, that because someone is from a metropolitan area that theyâre not going to be bigoted assholes? Donât you think this is a bit prejudicial? I think thatâs what OP meant. At least thatâs how I undertand it.
Like they pointed out, just because theyâre Albertan, theyâre immediately categorized into this alt-right conervative demographic. They also provided proof that there is a progressive movement in Alberta thatâs protesting conservative ideologies.
"Why do people keep categorizing these French people as french? I feel like itâs disrespectful. "
If you think itâs disrespectful to acknowledge the political values of a community then thatâs a you problem.
If Alberta becomes a progressive place policy wise for long enough people wonât make those associations, people make those associations because those provinces are controlled by the right.
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I am Ontarioian and i have a hate boner for my fellow Ontarioians repeatedly voting in Doug Ford, a lying populist politician who thrives on corruption. Weâre all in this together. The actions of the voters donât always represent the actions or sentiment of the entire province. Vote for voting reform to have the people better represented by our premiers.
This guy Ontarioiates
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
So youâre hating on all of us because one person generalized? Curious.
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Itâs worth remembering that dividing the country and making us hate each other inherently leads to polarization, which inherently leads to completely unaligned parties succeeding each other which leads to wild amounts of waste and inefficiency from government as it swings back and forth between extremely different agendas.
There is a reason that our geopolitical enemies spend billions on campaigns to try and create division and hate. It truly does weaken us as a country.
Itâs also worth remembering that the divisions weâre dealing with now were not brought on by my neighbours or myself. Thereâs a shit ton of rich assholes out there who understand that if they donât manipulate the rabble (us) to hate each other, weâll remember weâre supposed to be forming posses to take care of them.
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"Why do people keep categorizing these French people as french? I feel like itâs disrespectful. "
If you think itâs disrespectful to acknowledge the political values of a community then thatâs a you problem.
If Alberta becomes a progressive place policy wise for long enough people wonât make those associations, people make those associations because those provinces are controlled by the right.
"Why do people keep categorizing these French people as french? I feel like itâs disrespectful. "
Thereâs a BIG difference between assuming someone is French because they speak French and assuming someone has a specific political view because they are from a geographical location. Thatâs a really poor example.
Anyway, do whatever you want. If you want to be a prejudicial bigot and automatically classify people based on your own generalized stereotypical view of them, donât complain if people start criticizing you.
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I want to say this loud and clear in a post here for everyone to see, but there is an issue here with people having this giant hate boner for Albertans. Not the government, not UCP voters, but Albertans.
It doesnât matter if youâre politically on the same side as people elsewhere in the country, it doesnât matter if you present facts to people who are provably wrong on the most basic of things they say, it doesnât matter if you treat them with dignity and respect by mentioning things with good intentions and not insulting people. You will still get labelled as the bad guy for the very fact youâre Albertan.
I made a response to a comment on this post in the community. My comment was responding to someone who called Albertans âHUGE pussiesâ for âgiving up our rightsâ.
In my response to said comment, I basically said that the notion that weâre âsimply giving upâ is completely false, using the following facts:
- Students have been staging walkouts:
- CBC: Calgary students among thousands across Alberta taking part in provincewide walkout
- Global News: Alberta students walk out of class in support of teachers forced back to work
- OkotoksOnline: High River students walkout in support of teachers
- The AFL (Alberta Federation of Labour) has stated that they will retaliate against the back to work order with a âgeneral strike if necessaryâ
- Global News: âGeneral strike if necessaryâ: Alberta unions declare intent to bring down UCP government
- CPAC: Alberta Union Leaders Respond to Smith Governmentâs Back-to-Work Legislation
- CityNews Calgary: No general strike yet as Alberta labour unions mobilize against Smith government
- The UCP has faced a dip in the polls resulting from the back-to-work order
- CTV News: Majority of Alberta Govât Report Card respondents feel province headed in wrong direction
- Angus Reid: Teachersâ Strike: Most Albertans side with teachers as they criticize UCPâs handling of education
- Calgary Herald: âReputational challengesâ: New poll shows public support for Smith, UCP has dipped amid teachersâ strike (Yes I know itâs PostMedia, itâs still relevant and correct in this case)
I went ahead and said that statements like this that blanket Albertans as lazy, dumb, and inept do not help relations between the province and the rest of the country, especially when the actions being taken showcase the exact opposite.
For this, I was labelled as a conservative myself when Iâm registered with the NDP provincially and federally, had myself and those around me insulted, and was told I was uneducated by someone who spewed blatantly incorrect information as they did so, and I was the one looked down upon in the entire interaction simply for where Iâm from.
I suggested that in order for the NDP or Liberals, or anybody to win over Albertans, they need to address issues here. I gave the example of canola farmers suffering, and how the feds can tariff imported cooking oils to encourage consumers to choose a domestic alternative and/or have marketing campaigns to support canola farmers by increasing their domestic sales.
For this, someone insinuated that I am dumber than them simply based on what they assumed to be the school system I attended. The very same person who said this confidently made another comment where they claimed that the NDP was in charge for a âlong timeâ before Peter Lougheed, and that Lougheed ran on diversifying the economy, and ditched the effort afterwards.
This is provably false. The NDP formed government for the first time in 2015, it was the Social Credit Party who came before Lougheedâs Progressive Conservatives. Lougheed also established the Heritage Fund , which was made specifically to save money for investments in other sectors of Albertaâs economy, the disaster of the fund came with the following leaders.
However, calling someone out for getting their facts wrong, and showcasing a current example of tariffs working to protect domestic goods gets you downvoted if youâre Albertan, with the very people insulting your intelligence getting upvoted as they spew their nonsense.
Apparently explaining working-class issues and what left-wing parties can do to better reach those who normally vote Conservative is treating Alberta as âspecialâ and forcing âeveryone else to adaptâ to us. Clearly the âmajorityâ of people in Alberta are âhateful moronsâ and âinsular xenophobesâ .
Why do people continue to blanket me with the thoughts of a few bad apples they met? Are they more prominent here, sure, whatever, I can agree to that. I can agree that people here can be some of the worst youâve met, I would know, I live here.
But me and the good, well-meaning people I know, especially those here who are marginalised or among the over 750,000 people who voted for the NDP the last election, do not appreciate having blanket statements made against us simply because we live here. I am pro-abortion, I am pro-immigration, I am pro-expanding healthcare, pro-creating public alternatives, pro-trans rights, anti-privatisation, anti-separatist, and yet sure, Iâm a Conservative tip-toeing a line because my thoughts slightly deviate from the norm.
Hate the government, hate the jerks, do not hate me simply for where Iâm born and the fact that I live here. I do not do this to you, I do not insult people for where they live or were born, and donât make blanket assumptions about the entire population of an area based on whoâs in power where they live. Why then is it seen as acceptable for this to happen to me?
I am an Albertan who doesnât want special treatment, but for fuck sake, it is reasonable to want to be treated with respect.
Edit: I donât know why the numbered lists are showing all as 1âs, I have them properly numbered in the text of this post.
Iâm in an Albertan union. WTF is taking so long with this general strike? Our union voted in favour, I donât know the percentage, and a friend of mine told me their union voted 93% in favour of it.