Nope! I’ll horde steam and gog both, now i shame you into flossing your feet and brushing your butt.

I feel like GOG would be more popular if their client were better. Maybe more usable with a controller too?

And something that would help competition in the game launcher space in particular would be if OSes had great built-in controller support (and controller OS navigation) so we wouldn’t have to rely on Steam for it.

I get both sides of this. I understand wanting GoG to have an official Linux client, but the Steam Client is such garbage.

I like both Heroic and Lutris

I think these days, “costumers” are called “cosplayers”

Imagine being sane, neither an steam only, pc master race enthusiast, nor a FOSS Linux 100% privacy and anonymity zealot.

An under-discussed topic is what will happen to Steam after Gaben crosses the rainbow bridge. It’s practically begging to be enshittified.

With games I own, I never have to worry about this.

What sort of costumes do they do?

Yeah…not really…

For the nay sayers: https://www.gog.com/en/game/cyberpunk2077_piggyback_interactive_map

Why not. As long as i get free key with my prime subscription. Not that i’m going to renew that, anyway.

Yeah, its like a lot of people don’t know you can just… move files out of Steam’s directory, and 95% of the time, game still runs, just, not through Steam.

What even is a Steam rip, anyway?

Imagine what happens if Steam Valve just stops developing Proton.

Oh, haha, well, then uh, in not too much time, linux gaming for all future games beyond that point goes back to being roughly where WINE was a decade ago, future games that work on linux goes back to being a really weird, esoteric, niche thing.

People really don’t understand that Proton basically is the most important project in the history of linux, of free software, in terms of getting an actually sizeable chunk of people to use linux regularly, to abandon corporate OSs.

Maybe someone should create a loot generator game…

Steam is as much de facto a seller of DRM-free games as a electric appliances store is a seller of quake games machines: some people with the right skills might get quake to work in some of the smart fridges or smart TVs they sell, but they’re definitelly not made for it, definitelly not sold as supporting that feature and definitelly no support whatsoever is provided for that feature.

When you’re making a purchasing decision on their store, Steam doesn’t tell you upfront if the game has or not their DRM hence you cannot make an informed decision on that factor: Steam most definitelly do not want potential customers to select games on the basis or absence of DRM.

Also the install process of a game in a new machine with Steam is always via their store which can arbitrarily refuse you access to the games you supposedly bought (only according to Steam, you only “licensed” them) whilst with GOG once you downloaded the offline installer it’s de facto yours (even in legal environments where such sales are not treated the same as sales of games in physical media - which are treated as owned). The copying over of a Steam game is a hack, which even without the Steam phone-home DRM might not work, for example, if the game won’t run properly when certain registry keys created during install are not present.

They also work to preserve old games, instead of just serving remasters.

I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.

If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!

No I speed read your message just as tonight I speed slept (as in, I didn’t sleep much)

The problem is that with Steam you only know if that works after you bought the game and only know if that works across machines if you upfront have two machines to test it in.

I mean, if you know upfront that it matters to you (which you might not until, say, your machine breaks and you happen to have no access to the Internet or Steam in your new machine yet, at with point you’ll be thinking “I wish I checked”) you can go through all the hassle of always thoroughly testing it within the refund period of that game, but at that point piracy is less of a hassle.

Meanwhile some of my GOG offline installers are so old that they have been used on 3 different machines (well, one was the same machine under Windows and under Linux) already.

Don’t get me wrong - I use both Steam and GOG, my point is that saying that “Steam has DRM free games” is even worse than a half-truth and about as bollocks as saying that a shop selling TVs is selling “Quake game machines” - sure, people with the right skills can get Quake to run in some Smart TVs, but that’s not how the store is selling them as, that’s definitelly not supported by them and they won’t refund you a Smart TV purchase as “not suitable for purpose” if that device fails to runs Quake.

Did you just compare copying and pasting files to running Quake on a smart fridge?

It’s not official, but I’m liking Heroic Launcher. Really, GoG should just support them(or Lutris) and link to them directly for linux support.