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  • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

    Harad/Haradrim/ Swirters were basically Arabic/African dark skinned swarthy people that served as heroless bad guys, unless I missed out on something. https://share.google/GGo7jZXCys45ZC8W7

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    rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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    They were the scary evil guys that brought Oliphants into the battle.

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    • M mastertigurius@lemmy.world

      Which evil characters? Azog, Radbug, Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman. Not even remotely Germanic or Arab-sounding. Linguists have drawn comparison between Black Speech and ancient Mesopotamian languages, specifically Hurro-Urartian languages, which originated in what is now the Armenian Highlands. Again, not remotely Arabic, which is Semitic language. The only comparisons to Germanic languages I can think of in the Tolkien universe are dwarves and men.

      If you’re gonna accuse a dead person of something awful, have your facts straight.

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      rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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      I had a professor that compared Black Speech to proto Germanic, so if that is completely incorrect I apologize for repeating it.

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      • B balsoft@lemmy.ml

        Yep. Some common names:

        Steve ← Steven ← Stephanus ← στέφανος = crown (or wealth)

        Linda ← -linde = tender, soft

        James ← Iacomus ← Iacobus ← Ἰάκωβος ← Ἰακώβ ← יַעֲקֹב = heel, footprint / follow, watch, observe

        Karen ← Catherine ← Αἰκατερίνη ← Ἑκάτη = one who works from far away (referring to a goddess)

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        rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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        Karen- one who complains to management

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        • AlaknárA Alaknár

          Didn’t he also say that his actual Entish name would take too long to pronounce for regular mortals to bother with?

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          rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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          Right, wouldn’t an Entish Introduction (great band name) take a month of common time?

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          • R rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works

            Hello, my name is Personface

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            rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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            Charles Gunhaver, reporting for duty. Rock, Rock on!

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            • A agent641@lemmy.world

              Overt bad guy: Sauron

              Secret bad guy: Saurumon

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              hupf@feddit.org
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              I don’t follow Digimon lore

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                bomberesque@lemmy.world
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                Mount DOOM has entered the chat

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                • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

                  Harad/Haradrim/ Swirters were basically Arabic/African dark skinned swarthy people that served as heroless bad guys, unless I missed out on something. https://share.google/GGo7jZXCys45ZC8W7

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                  mastertigurius@lemmy.world
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                  The Haradrim swore allegiance to Sauron after long years of oppression by the Númenóreans and conflict with Gondor, during which Sauron worked to seduce them to his side. However, not all of them joined Sauron. Many sided with the blue wizards. You could draw parallels to modern times; not all Russians support Putin, and not all Iranians support Khomeini.

                  It’s worth mentioning Dunlendings also went the same way after excessive Númenórean exploitation of their natural resources and resulting wars. They fought for Saruman (Sauron by proxy) alongside Uruk-hai in Helm’s Deep.

                  Of course the Haradrim were dark-skinned - they were from the southern hemisphere of Arda, the huge landmass south of Gondor and Mordor. Most of it is on or below the equator.

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                  • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

                    I had a professor that compared Black Speech to proto Germanic, so if that is completely incorrect I apologize for repeating it.

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                    melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                    nah it’s cool. We’re all trying to chase that leftist capital.

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                    • M mastertigurius@lemmy.world

                      The Haradrim swore allegiance to Sauron after long years of oppression by the Númenóreans and conflict with Gondor, during which Sauron worked to seduce them to his side. However, not all of them joined Sauron. Many sided with the blue wizards. You could draw parallels to modern times; not all Russians support Putin, and not all Iranians support Khomeini.

                      It’s worth mentioning Dunlendings also went the same way after excessive Númenórean exploitation of their natural resources and resulting wars. They fought for Saruman (Sauron by proxy) alongside Uruk-hai in Helm’s Deep.

                      Of course the Haradrim were dark-skinned - they were from the southern hemisphere of Arda, the huge landmass south of Gondor and Mordor. Most of it is on or below the equator.

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                      rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                      I knew someone that actually read the Silmarillion would be able to correct me. Thank you for the correction.

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                      • G greenknight23@lemmy.world

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                        blackbelt352@ttrpg.network
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                        Personal attacks aren’t jokes. They’re all punch, no line.

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                        • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

                          It’s kinda funny with anime and manga. They use Japanese names for a bunch of stuff like special martial arts techniques or special moves. Not knowing Japanese, the names sound cool and mysterious.

                          Learning the actual translations, Treebeard is pretty par for the course.

                          Like from Naruto, Sasuke uses the Copy Wheel Eye (sharingan), Hinyata uses the White Eye (byakugon), and Naruto’s big move is Spiral Sphere (rasengan). Copy Wheel Eye’s upgraded version is called Kalidoscope Copy Wheel Eye.

                          They aren’t horrible names, but they feel less cool.

                          Though it would be funny if Saitama has special moves that are just other languages saying “normal punch” or “serious punch”. “Hip bump with moderate vigor” or something.

                          Edit: fixed spelling of byakugon

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                          nikls94@lemmy.world
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                          In MMORPGs the Archer class usually has a skill called “Aimed Shot”.

                          (Joke incoming: That’s a stronger version of the skill “Unaimed Shot” where you just miss)

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                          • L leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            Sure… but Tolkien could tell you Treebeard’s name in hall a dozen languages he’d made up for his setting (or for fun, before the setting was a thing), including full etymologies.

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                            flyingcircus@lemmy.world
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                            Including Treebeard’s actual name in his own language. Treebeard is almost a joke name meant to show how primitive the humans are who called him that.

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                              ivanovsky@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              Maybe that’s why Tolkien wrote a ton of books while most of us get stuck in the character creation screen of Baldur’s Gate 3 choosing a name for 7 hours.

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                                taschwitters@lemmings.world
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                                In a world where a guy named Big Balls has had control over federal budget allocations, I can accept this.

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                                • G greenknight23@lemmy.world

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                                  What do you get recognised for on Lemmy? - Lemmy.World

                                  We’re a small tight knit community. We see the same names everywhere. I’m sure many of you have been recognised by strangers before. What is your claim to Lemmy fame. (Question inspired by, https://lemmy.world/comment/19964547 [https://lemmy.world/comment/19964547])

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                                  redaggrobest@lemmy.world
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                                  Bad troll is bad. Why is everyone feeding the troll? Didn’t we all learn that rule back in the day?

                                  Edit: Don’t even give the satisfaction of a reply.

                                  I’m not writing this to you (the troll), but so other people realize what they’re seeing isn’t genuine interaction.

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                                  • R redaggrobest@lemmy.world

                                    Bad troll is bad. Why is everyone feeding the troll? Didn’t we all learn that rule back in the day?

                                    Edit: Don’t even give the satisfaction of a reply.

                                    I’m not writing this to you (the troll), but so other people realize what they’re seeing isn’t genuine interaction.

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                                    greenknight23@lemmy.world
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                                    so making a joke and responding to comments attacking me makes me a troll?

                                    if that’s the case why even respond at all?

                                    why not just downvote and move on?

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                                    • J jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      His actual name would likely take a month or longer to say.

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                                      threelonmusketeers
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                                      It… takes… a great… deal… of time… to say… anything… in Old… Entish… and we Ents… never… say anything… unless… it is worth… taking… a long… time… to say…

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