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  • robolemmy@lemmy.worldR robolemmy@lemmy.world

    Double the trauma, double the… fun?

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    IndescribablySad@threads.net
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    “Mmm, just like dad used to make.”

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    • F fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com

      I’m a forever DM, as a favor to all DMs out there, please don’t use DND for therapy. We’re not therapists, we’re storytellers. We’re just as likely to make things worse.

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      iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m a forever GM too, and I made this meme referring to a player in my groups. She’s an amazing player and I include her as often as possible. The point of the meme was not really to highlight that people use TTRPGs as a therapy replacement, though I definitely know that some might try that and I agree with you that it’s not a good idea.

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      • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

        I’m a forever GM too, and I made this meme referring to a player in my groups. She’s an amazing player and I include her as often as possible. The point of the meme was not really to highlight that people use TTRPGs as a therapy replacement, though I definitely know that some might try that and I agree with you that it’s not a good idea.

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        misterdoctor
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        I’ve never played a TTRPG, but I noticed that the first person said DM and you said GM. Are they interchangeable? Or is DM specifically only for D&D because of dungeon? Is there bad blood between people who say GM vs DM? Is it like crips and bloods?

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        • M misterdoctor

          I’ve never played a TTRPG, but I noticed that the first person said DM and you said GM. Are they interchangeable? Or is DM specifically only for D&D because of dungeon? Is there bad blood between people who say GM vs DM? Is it like crips and bloods?

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          milkisklim@lemm.ee
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          Generally yes. DM and GM are interchangeable, with the small caveat that the term Dungeon Master is owned by Wizards.

          Source

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          • M misterdoctor

            I’ve never played a TTRPG, but I noticed that the first person said DM and you said GM. Are they interchangeable? Or is DM specifically only for D&D because of dungeon? Is there bad blood between people who say GM vs DM? Is it like crips and bloods?

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            Magiilaro
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            #10

            The phrase “Dungeon Master” is a registered trademark[1] by the rights holders of Dungeons and Dragons. DM is the abbreviation of that, and most likely safe to use. Game Master (GM) is used as a generic (and game agnostic) term.

            [1] https://trademarks.justia.com/742/64/dungeon-74264094.html

            Edit: I have (twice) edited this now after additional information from others (thank you Kichae for the link to the Dungeon Master trademark) was posted on this thread.

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            • D Magiilaro

              The phrase “Dungeon Master” is a registered trademark[1] by the rights holders of Dungeons and Dragons. DM is the abbreviation of that, and most likely safe to use. Game Master (GM) is used as a generic (and game agnostic) term.

              [1] https://trademarks.justia.com/742/64/dungeon-74264094.html

              Edit: I have (twice) edited this now after additional information from others (thank you Kichae for the link to the Dungeon Master trademark) was posted on this thread.

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              jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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              Some other games use other terms. Like wod uses “storyteller”.

              GM is the generic term

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              • robolemmy@lemmy.worldR robolemmy@lemmy.world

                Double the trauma, double the… fun?

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                Neshura
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                #12

                You sure it’s a linear corelation? Maybe it’s double the trauma four times the fun!

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                  launcheskayaks@lemmy.world
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                  My characters almost always gain 90% of their trauma from the adventure itself.

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                  • D Magiilaro

                    The phrase “Dungeon Master” is a registered trademark[1] by the rights holders of Dungeons and Dragons. DM is the abbreviation of that, and most likely safe to use. Game Master (GM) is used as a generic (and game agnostic) term.

                    [1] https://trademarks.justia.com/742/64/dungeon-74264094.html

                    Edit: I have (twice) edited this now after additional information from others (thank you Kichae for the link to the Dungeon Master trademark) was posted on this thread.

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                    Lovable Sidekick
                    wrote on last edited by lovablesidekick@lemmy.world
                    #14

                    I don’t think DM is a trademark, but if you have other information feel free to provide it. Looking through older discussion forums on this topic, the only semi-definitive answer I’ve found is in this 2021 thread where somebody referred to a now-defunct US gov’t trademark search link, where they said they found a lot of "DM"s registered but none related to D&D. I’m inclined to believe it was a working link at that time and they weren’t just making shit up.

                    Personally I use the term DM because I’ve mostly played D&D, so to me it’s more natural.

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                      SmokeyDope
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                      #15

                      Nothing wrong with a little bit of projection every now and then. It seems some people take it too far as a coping mechanism sometimes taking it to unhinged/unsafe degrees.

                      I consider it an ethical and moral responsibility to hide the darker aspects of my life from other people in general unless they are closely loved family or get paid to deal with such things as a career. If were just weekend night game buddies theres no reason you should be able to guess anything about my shitty life or internal suffering through poorly veiled character back story allusions. Its not your responsibility, its more personal that most are casually comfortable with, and its wrong for me to try to burden you with knowledge like that.

                      Revealing your deep traumas / “venting” to other regular people who only know you as a friend or passing aquanitence simply adds onto their psychological burden and likely makes further interaction weird or even secretly unwanted by complicating the relationship. Likely without improving your emotional situation any long term.

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                      • L Lovable Sidekick

                        I don’t think DM is a trademark, but if you have other information feel free to provide it. Looking through older discussion forums on this topic, the only semi-definitive answer I’ve found is in this 2021 thread where somebody referred to a now-defunct US gov’t trademark search link, where they said they found a lot of "DM"s registered but none related to D&D. I’m inclined to believe it was a working link at that time and they weren’t just making shit up.

                        Personally I use the term DM because I’ve mostly played D&D, so to me it’s more natural.

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                        “DM” is not a trademarked term, because it’s a pair of letters. “Dungeon Master” is absolutely a trademarked term, though, and has been since the TSR days.

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                        • F fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com

                          I’m a forever DM, as a favor to all DMs out there, please don’t use DND for therapy. We’re not therapists, we’re storytellers. We’re just as likely to make things worse.

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                          macniel
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                          But if it’s not for therapy why are there two ts in ttrpg 😄

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                          • robolemmy@lemmy.worldR robolemmy@lemmy.world

                            Double the trauma, double the… fun?

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                            edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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                            Double the trauma, double the drama

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                            • L Lovable Sidekick

                              I don’t think DM is a trademark, but if you have other information feel free to provide it. Looking through older discussion forums on this topic, the only semi-definitive answer I’ve found is in this 2021 thread where somebody referred to a now-defunct US gov’t trademark search link, where they said they found a lot of "DM"s registered but none related to D&D. I’m inclined to believe it was a working link at that time and they weren’t just making shit up.

                              Personally I use the term DM because I’ve mostly played D&D, so to me it’s more natural.

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                              Magiilaro
                              wrote on last edited by darkmetatron@feddit.org
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                              My primary source at the time of posting was a sentence in the Wikipedia[1] but I have added the link to the trademark[2] that was provided by Kichae and rephrased my text now.

                              Thank you for reminding me that I should always properly check my sources and provide all information.

                              [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dungeon_Master&oldid=1185015796 [2] https://trademarks.justia.com/742/64/dungeon-74264094.html

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                                brennan lee mulligan making a new character

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                                • KichaeK Kichae

                                  “DM” is not a trademarked term, because it’s a pair of letters. “Dungeon Master” is absolutely a trademarked term, though, and has been since the TSR days.

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                                  Magiilaro
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                                  Thank you for this information, I have added it to my original comment.

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                                  • katy  ✨C katy ✨

                                    brennan lee mulligan making a new character

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                                    iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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                                    “TTRPG players” includes Brennan, yes.

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                                      ziggurat@jlai.lu
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                                      Do not assume that every character Trauma is the player putting their own Trauma, while it’s not uncommon to be from a bankrupt wealthy familyor gender non comforming, oreven a single parentIRL, it’s a very classic Character design trope, because fighting lord evil who stole your family possession or finding back your original body/form are great Character goal feeding the plot and the story.

                                      Sure it may be a way to tell something about you in the PC creation, but it may just be a way to offer plot hooks

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                                        maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Couldnt be me, I’m the head empty goblin girl and my motivation is chaos

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                                          Do not assume that every character Trauma is the player putting their own Trauma, while it’s not uncommon to be from a bankrupt wealthy familyor gender non comforming, oreven a single parentIRL, it’s a very classic Character design trope, because fighting lord evil who stole your family possession or finding back your original body/form are great Character goal feeding the plot and the story.

                                          Sure it may be a way to tell something about you in the PC creation, but it may just be a way to offer plot hooks

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                                          Kichae
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                                          It’s also worth understanding that trauma is something that you work out through your daily life, not just in therapy. One of the models for trauma is that it’s caused by a sense of helplessness in the face of a great stressor or existential threat, and engaging in activities that let you react to dangers can be theraputic.

                                          Theraputic, not therapy.

                                          No one else at the table needs to be directly involved. No one need be asked to be a shoulder to lie on. It’s not any different in practice than the masturbatory power fantasies we’re all engaging in at the table. It’s just starting from a slightly different place.

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