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"I don't want Politics in my Gaming!"

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  • E edible_funk@lemmy.world

    I mean I can understand having occasional exceptions to the rule so the players can get an interesting non standard experience, but straight evil aligned critters should always be present in fantasy settings especially ttrpg and DND specifically.

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    ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m not sure about always. That’s just lazy world building to have orcs naturally evil instead of predominantly mind controlled or ruled by evil leaders or some sort of blood fued. It’s the same with good aligned races. Unless you want to focus on the definition of good and evil.

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    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮

      When I say “I don’t want politics in my gaming,” I mean it literally.

      Like, I don’t care for the Star Wars prequels because they spend a lotta time just doing politics instead of space battles.

      I don’t wanna sit through boring ass senate sessions listening to motions and passing votes. I wanna blow shit up!

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      ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      Let me introduce you to Spec Ops the Line. A game where wanting to blow stuff up is the political statement.

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      • I its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone

        He changed it to Calvin, but this comment is hilarious now.

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        Ech
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        • D darohan@lemmy.zip

          This comment is really funny now that OP is using the new format, please leave it up.

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          Hah, gotta edit it at least a bit. I’ll leave the original viewable.

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.

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            handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip
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            Meanwhile every Ubisoft title, no matter how inoffensive, add the disclaimer:

            This game was created by a diverse team of people with different beliefs, sexual orientations, and gender identities

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            • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

              Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.

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              Captain Aggravated
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              “Politics are genuinely fun and everyone wants to see them all the time, and the people who say they don’t want to see it like it even more, they just wish they were seeing different politics.” -hbomberguy

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              • V ViatorOmnium

                “I don’t want to talk about/see politics” is always synonym to “I support the status quo, and I will aggressively reject anything that goes against it”.

                Nothing that happens on a public space is free of politics, even when it’s not controversial.

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                arnitbier@sh.itjust.works
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                Anything they see in there that goes against their own personally DESIRED to be status quo is an insult. Theyve just got shit views so well rounded culture shocks them and it reminds them all about how their shit stinks and they aren’t really all that smart or morally sound. Cause if they were, they wouldn’t have identified with any that stuff to begin with or realized the perils.

                And it makes them know the cringe at how they’re viewed (but they say its just how they’re PORTRAYED to pass the buck on being that way being their own fault and indicative of their lack of stats and general lack of character) 😄😂

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                • S stray@pawb.social

                  But you’re making the statement that it’s okay to kill people if you want their stuff. The politics are there even if you don’t choose to examine them.

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                  xm34@feddit.org
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                  No, I’m not. Because my mental development moved past three years old and I’m able to differentiate reality from fiction. Do you also believe that Super Mario players advocate for animal cruelty towards turtles?

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                  • S stray@pawb.social

                    How come gay people don’t already have rights in your setting?

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                    xm34@feddit.org
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                    They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.

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                    • X xm34@feddit.org

                      They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.

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                      stray@pawb.social
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                      That doesn’t make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?

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                      • S stray@pawb.social

                        That doesn’t make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?

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                        xm34@feddit.org
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                        As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.

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                        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                          Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.

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                          spittingimage@lemmy.world
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                          I don’t want North-American politics in my gaming.

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                          • X xm34@feddit.org

                            No, I’m not. Because my mental development moved past three years old and I’m able to differentiate reality from fiction. Do you also believe that Super Mario players advocate for animal cruelty towards turtles?

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                            stray@pawb.social
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                            I mean the statement is being made within the universe. Super Mario does advocate for violence against koopas. You don’t have to examine it, but that doesn’t make it apolitical.

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                            • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                              Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.

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                              kameecoding@lemmy.world
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                              All I want is more nice unpolitical games like Bioshock or Wolfenstein

                              And not the woke nonsense of having female or PoC main characters.

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                              • X xm34@feddit.org

                                As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.

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                                apotheotic (she/her)
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                                Sounds like you’re either not picking up on the fact that your world isn’t actually supportive of gay rights (because of subconscious prejudice or something) or you’re bad at communicating that it is, or both.

                                “Weaponized inclusivity” jesus christ so its clearly the former

                                “Narcissistic urge for self-promotion” insane statement. Check your prejudice.

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                                • X xm34@feddit.org

                                  They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.

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                                  When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you’re probably the dipshit.

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                                  • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                    man I just wanna play my lyre and have an adventure and have fun. I don’t wanna argue over politics. I game to get away from all that.

                                    I think it’s ok to want to have some space between stuff.

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                                    apotheotic (she/her)
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                                    The point is that there are politics in your game, like it or not. Whether you make them a central focus is another story entirely.

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                                    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Exactly. What they’re really mad about is the fact that there’s a black person, a gay person, or woman with normal sized tits in the game.

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                                      Bobbysaurus
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                                      I hate normal sized tits!

                                      /s Just in case 😄

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                                      • X xm34@feddit.org

                                        As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.

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                                        stray@pawb.social
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                                        Your language choices give a phobic vibe, just FYI. “[…] they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.” Like you know they’re suffering actual IRL oppression, right? Stuff like that could be giving LGBT players the impression that you’re hostile towards them.

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                                        • apotheotic (she/her)A apotheotic (she/her)

                                          When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you’re probably the dipshit.

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                                          xm34@feddit.org
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                                          Oh, quite the opposite. Most people around me are awesome. And I’ve gotten pretty good at sorting out the few who aren’t. In fact, after deleting Reddit, pretty much my entire dipshit intake stems from Lemmy. I sometimes really do wonder what I’m still doing here. Because clearly, this entire community has some serious issues to work through.

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