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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 1st February 2026

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  • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

    I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).

    The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they’ll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.

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    istewart@awful.systems
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    #18

    I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”.

    Yeah, Gas Town is being belabored to death, but it must be reiterated that I doubt the long-term value proposition of “Kubernetes fan fiction”

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    • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

      I also didn’t find the argument very persuasive.

      The LLM companies aren’t paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?

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      rook@awful.systems
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      Oh, they won’t. It’s just that they’ve already killed the golden goose, and no-one is breeding new ones, and they need an awful lot of gold still.

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      • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

        just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

        as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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        bigmuffn69@awful.systems
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        I have family working there, who told me during the holidays, “Current leadership makes me uncomfortable, but money is good”

        Every impression I had of them completely shattered, cannot fathom that level out sell out exists in people I thought I knew.

        As a bonus, their former partner was a former employee who became a whistleblower and has now gone full howard hughes

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        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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          mirrorwitch@awful.systems
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          Cloudflare just announced in a blog post that they built:

          a serverless, post-quantum Matrix homeserver.

          it’s a vibe-coded pile of slop where most of the functions are placeholders like // TODO: check authorization.

          Full thread: https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115967791152135761

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          • bigmuffn69@awful.systemsB bigmuffn69@awful.systems

            I have family working there, who told me during the holidays, “Current leadership makes me uncomfortable, but money is good”

            Every impression I had of them completely shattered, cannot fathom that level out sell out exists in people I thought I knew.

            As a bonus, their former partner was a former employee who became a whistleblower and has now gone full howard hughes

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            sansruse@awful.systems
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            anyone who can get a job at palantir can get an equivalent paying job at a company that’s at least measurably less evil. what a lazy copout

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            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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              cinnasverses@awful.systems
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky’s AI Risk Estimates (ie. “Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today”)

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              • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                nightsky@awful.systems
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                The AI craze might end up killing graphics card makers:

                Zotac SK’s message: “(this) current situation threatens the very existence of (add-in-board partners) AIBs and distributors.”

                The current situation is so serious that it is worrisome for the future existence of graphics card manufacturers and distributors. They announced that memory supply will not be sufficient and that GPU supply will also be reduced.

                Curiously, Zotac Korea has included lowly GeForce RTX 5060 SKUs in its short list of upcoming “staggering” price increases.

                (Source)

                I wonder if the AI companies realize how many people will be really pissed off at them when so many tech-related things become expensive or even unavailable, and everyone will know that it’s only because of useless AI data centers?

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                • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

                  just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

                  as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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                  aninjury2all@awful.systems
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                  #25

                  On a semi-adjacent note I came across an attorney who helped to establish and run the Department of Homeland Security (under Bush AND Trump 1)

                  Who wants you to know he’s ENRAGED. And EMBARRASSED. How the American Schutzstaffel is doing Schutzstaffel things

                  He also wants you to know he’s Jewish (so am I, and I know our history enough that Homeland Security always had ‘Blood and Soil’ connotations you fucking shande)

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                  • nightsky@awful.systemsN nightsky@awful.systems

                    The AI craze might end up killing graphics card makers:

                    Zotac SK’s message: “(this) current situation threatens the very existence of (add-in-board partners) AIBs and distributors.”

                    The current situation is so serious that it is worrisome for the future existence of graphics card manufacturers and distributors. They announced that memory supply will not be sufficient and that GPU supply will also be reduced.

                    Curiously, Zotac Korea has included lowly GeForce RTX 5060 SKUs in its short list of upcoming “staggering” price increases.

                    (Source)

                    I wonder if the AI companies realize how many people will be really pissed off at them when so many tech-related things become expensive or even unavailable, and everyone will know that it’s only because of useless AI data centers?

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                    istewart@awful.systems
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                    #26

                    I am confident that Altman in particular has a poor-to-nonexistent grasp of second-order effects.

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                    • S sansruse@awful.systems

                      anyone who can get a job at palantir can get an equivalent paying job at a company that’s at least measurably less evil. what a lazy copout

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                      bigmuffn69@awful.systems
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      On one hand as a poor grad student in the past, I could imagine working for a truly repugnant corp. but like if you’ve already made millions from your stock options, wtf are you doing. Idk, i really thought they’d have some shame over it, but they said shit like “our customers really like our deliverables” and i just fucking left with my wife

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                      • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

                        just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

                        as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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                        sc_griffith@awful.systems
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        this happens like clockwork

                        13 ex-Schutzstaffel employees condemn work as violating the SS code of conduct. "Don't let this be what the Totenkopf stands for."

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                        • M mirrorwitch@awful.systems

                          Cloudflare just announced in a blog post that they built:

                          a serverless, post-quantum Matrix homeserver.

                          it’s a vibe-coded pile of slop where most of the functions are placeholders like // TODO: check authorization.

                          Full thread: https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115967791152135761

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                          antifuchs@awful.systems
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                          #29

                          And of all possible things to implement, they chose Matrix. lol and lmao.

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                          • C cinnasverses@awful.systems

                            A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky’s AI Risk Estimates (ie. “Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today”)

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                            architeuthis@awful.systems
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            A religion is just a cult that survived its founder – someone, at some point.

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                            • sc_griffith@awful.systemsS sc_griffith@awful.systems

                              this happens like clockwork

                              13 ex-Schutzstaffel employees condemn work as violating the SS code of conduct. "Don't let this be what the Totenkopf stands for."

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                              architeuthis@awful.systems
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              It’s so blindingly obvious that it’s become obscure again so it bears pointing out, someone really went ahead and named a tech company after a fantasy torment nexus and people thought it wouldn’t be sketch.

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                              • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                                jfranek@awful.systems
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #32

                                I think I installed the cursed Windows 11 update on my work machine, because after taking several tries to boot, my second monitor stopped working (detected, but showing a black screen).

                                Tried some different configurations, and could make only 0-1 screens work.

                                Uninstalled the update and everything worked correctly again.

                                Thanks for nothing Microslop.

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                                • J jfranek@awful.systems

                                  I think I installed the cursed Windows 11 update on my work machine, because after taking several tries to boot, my second monitor stopped working (detected, but showing a black screen).

                                  Tried some different configurations, and could make only 0-1 screens work.

                                  Uninstalled the update and everything worked correctly again.

                                  Thanks for nothing Microslop.

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                                  flaviat@awful.systems
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  I also had a computer not boot. Tried installing windows 11 but the iso does not include network card drivers and requires a second drive that has them. I just happened to have another but it malfunctioned. Was assured IT would fix it but it still doesn’t boot. 😞

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                                  • I istewart@awful.systems

                                    I am confident that Altman in particular has a poor-to-nonexistent grasp of second-order effects.

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                                    mirrorwitch@awful.systems
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    I mean you don’t have to grasp, know of, or care about the consequences when none of the consequences will touch you, and after the bubble pops and the company bankrupts catastrophically, you will remain comfortably a billionaire with several more billions in your aire than the ones you had when you started the bubble in the first place. Consequences are for the working class, capitalists fall upwards.

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                                    • A antifuchs@awful.systems

                                      And of all possible things to implement, they chose Matrix. lol and lmao.

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                                      mirrorwitch@awful.systems
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      The interesting thing in this case for me is how did anyone think it was a good idea to draw attention to their placeholder code with a blog post. Like how did they went all the way to vibe a full post without even cursorily glancing at the slop commits.

                                      I’m convinced by now that at least mild forms of “AI psychosis” affect all chatbots users; after a period of time interacting with what Angela Collier called “Dr. Flattery the Always Wrong Robot”, people will hallucinate fully working projects without even trying to test whether it compiles.

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                                      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                        Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                        Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                        Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                        If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                        The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                        Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                        (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                                        mirrorwitch@awful.systems
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        I gave the new ChatGPT Health access to 29 million steps and 6 million heartbeat measurements [“a decade of my Apple Watch data”]. It drew questionable conclusions that changed each time I asked.

                                        WaPo. Paywalled but I like how everything I need to know is already in the blurb above.

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                                        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                                          gerikson@awful.systems
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                                          #37

                                          enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                                          Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                                          src

                                          no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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