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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 1st February 2026

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  • v0ldek@awful.systemsV v0ldek@awful.systems

    At this point I’m starting the suspect that they were actually all produced in a lab somewhere on that island

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    lurker@awful.systems
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    #177

    the REAL reason Yudkowsky endorsed the “superbabies” project is so Epstein and his pedophile friends have more kids to fuck. It all makes sense now!

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    • bigmuffn69@awful.systemsB bigmuffn69@awful.systems

      Gentlemen, it’s been an honour sneering w/ you, but I think this is the top 🫡 . Nothings gonna surpass this (at least until FTX 2 drops)

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      blakestacey@awful.systems
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      #178

      Great to hear from you. I was just up at MIT this week and met with Seth Lloyd (on Wednesday) and Scott Aaronson (on Thursday) on the “Cryptography in Nature” small research conference project. These interactions were fantastic. Both think the topic is wonderful and innovative and has promise. […] I did contact Max Tegmark about a month ago to propse the essay contest approach we discussed. He and his colleagues offered support but did not think that FQX should do it. Reasons they gave were that they saw the topic as too narrow and too technical compared to the essay contests they have been doing. It is possible that the real reason was prudence to avoid FQX, already quite “controversial” via Templeton support to become even more so via Epstein-related sponsorship of prizes. […] Again, I am delighted to have gotten such very string affirmation, input and scientific enthusiasm from both Seth and Scott. You have very brilliantly suggested a profound topical focus area.

      —Charles L. Harper Jr., formerly a big wheel at the Templeton foundation

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      • L lurker@awful.systems

        it’s all coming together. every single techbro and current government moron, they all loop back around to epstein in the end

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        lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems
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        #179

        It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!

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        • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

          It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!

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          lurker@awful.systems
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          #180

          at least I have SneerClub

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          • bigmuffn69@awful.systemsB bigmuffn69@awful.systems

            Gentlemen, it’s been an honour sneering w/ you, but I think this is the top 🫡 . Nothings gonna surpass this (at least until FTX 2 drops)

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            #181

            We will soon merge with and become hybrids of human consciousness and artificial intelligence ( created by us and therefore of consciousness)

            —Deepak Chopra to Jeffrey Epstein

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            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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              #182

              ChatGPT is using Grokipedia as a source, and it’s not the only AI tool to do so. Citations to Elon Musk’s AI-generated encyclopedia are starting to appear in answers from Google’s AI Overviews, AI Mode, and Gemini, too. […] When it launched, a bulk of Grokipedia’s articles were direct clones of Wikipedia, though many others reflected racist and transphobic views. For example, articles about Musk conveniently downplays his family wealth and unsavory elements of their past (like neo-Nazi and pro-Apartheid views) and the entry for “gay pornography” falsely linked the material to the worsening of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the 1980s. The article on US slavery still contains a lengthy section on “ideological justifications,” including the “Shift from Necessary Evil to Positive Good.” […] “Grokipedia feels like a cosplay of credibility,” said Leigh McKenzie, director of online visibility at Semrush. “It might work inside its own bubble, but the idea that Google or OpenAI would treat something like Grokipedia as a serious, default reference layer at scale is bleak.”

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              Google’s Gemini, AI Mode, and AI Overviews, Perplexity, and Microsoft are starting to cite Musk’s Wikipedia knockoff.

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              The entire AI industry is using the Nazi CSAM machine for training data.

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              • S scruiser@awful.systems

                You know, it makes the exact word choices Eliezer chose on this post: https://awful.systems/post/6297291 much more suspicious. “To the best of my knowledge, I have never in my life had sex with anyone under the age of 18.” So maybe he didn’t know they were underage at the time?

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                lurker@awful.systems
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                #183

                possible, iirc drugs were also involved so is it possible he got too high and doesn’t remember because of that?

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                • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                  Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                  Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                  Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                  If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                  The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                  Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                  (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                  #184

                  Moltbook was vibecoded nonsense without the faintest understanding of web security. Who’d have thought.

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                  Exposed Moltbook Database Let Anyone Take Control of Any AI Agent on the Site

                  'It exploded before anyone thought to check whether the database was properly secured.'

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                  404 Media (www.404media.co)

                  (Incidentally, I’m pretty certain the headline is wrong… it looks like you cannot take control of agents which post to moltbook, but you can take control of their accounts, and post anything you like. Useful for pump-and-dump memecoin scams, for example)

                  O’Reilly said that he reached out to Moltbook’s creator Matt Schlicht about the vulnerability and told him he could help patch the security. “He’s like, ‘I’m just going to give everything to AI. So send me whatever you have.’”

                  (snip)

                  The URL to the Supabase and the publishable key was sitting on Moltbook’s website. “With this publishable key (which advised by Supabase not to be used to retrieve sensitive data) every agent’s secret API key, claim tokens, verification codes, and owner relationships, all of it sitting there completely unprotected for anyone to visit the URL,” O’Reilly said.

                  (snip)

                  He said the security failure was frustrating, in part, because it would have been trivially easy to fix. Just two SQL statements would have protected the API keys. “A lot of these vibe coders and new developers, even some big companies, are using Supabase,” O’Reilly said. “The reason a lot of vibe coders like to use it is because it’s all GUI driven, so you don’t need to connect to a database and run SQL commands.”

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                  • blakestacey@awful.systemsB blakestacey@awful.systems

                    We will soon merge with and become hybrids of human consciousness and artificial intelligence ( created by us and therefore of consciousness)

                    —Deepak Chopra to Jeffrey Epstein

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                    jaschop@awful.systems
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                    #185

                    When we use the fart app on our phone we merge with and become hybrids of human conciousness and artificial fartelligence (created by us and therefore of conciousness)

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                    • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                      Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                      Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                      Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                      If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                      The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                      Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                      (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                      rook@awful.systems
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                      #186

                      I know this is like shooting very large fish in a very small barrel, but the openclaws/molt/clawd thing is an amazing source of utter, baffling ineptitude.

                      For example, what if you could replace cron with a stochastic scheduler that cost you a dollar an hour by running an operation on someone else’s gpu farm, instead of just checking the local system clock.

                      The user was then pleased to announce that they’d been able to solve the problem by changing model and reduce the polling interval. Instead of just checking the clock. For free.

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                      Rusty Foster (@rusty.todayintabs.com)

                      I’m starting to think the people who are excited about “AI agents” have literally never used a computer in their lives

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                      • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                        I know this is like shooting very large fish in a very small barrel, but the openclaws/molt/clawd thing is an amazing source of utter, baffling ineptitude.

                        For example, what if you could replace cron with a stochastic scheduler that cost you a dollar an hour by running an operation on someone else’s gpu farm, instead of just checking the local system clock.

                        The user was then pleased to announce that they’d been able to solve the problem by changing model and reduce the polling interval. Instead of just checking the clock. For free.

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                        Rusty Foster (@rusty.todayintabs.com)

                        I’m starting to think the people who are excited about “AI agents” have literally never used a computer in their lives

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                        lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems
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                        #187

                        I admire how persistent the AI folks are at failing to do the same thing over and over again, but each time coming up with an even more stupid name. Vibe coding? Gas Town? Clawdbot, I mean Moltbook, I mean OpenClaw? It’s probably gonna be something different tomorrow, isn’t it?

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                        • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

                          I admire how persistent the AI folks are at failing to do the same thing over and over again, but each time coming up with an even more stupid name. Vibe coding? Gas Town? Clawdbot, I mean Moltbook, I mean OpenClaw? It’s probably gonna be something different tomorrow, isn’t it?

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                          o7___o7@awful.systems
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                          #188

                          Garbage sports teams rapidly cycling through logos until they magically become good

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                          • J jaschop@awful.systems

                            When we use the fart app on our phone we merge with and become hybrids of human conciousness and artificial fartelligence (created by us and therefore of conciousness)

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                            #189

                            It keeps coming back to Gas Town doesnt it?

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                              Garbage sports teams rapidly cycling through logos until they magically become good

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                              istewart@awful.systems
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                              #190

                              Counterpoint: these guys

                              (Expect the Las Vegas Raiders to announce their organization-wide AI initiative some time after the Super Bowl)

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                              • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                                Moltbook was vibecoded nonsense without the faintest understanding of web security. Who’d have thought.

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                                Exposed Moltbook Database Let Anyone Take Control of Any AI Agent on the Site

                                'It exploded before anyone thought to check whether the database was properly secured.'

                                favicon

                                404 Media (www.404media.co)

                                (Incidentally, I’m pretty certain the headline is wrong… it looks like you cannot take control of agents which post to moltbook, but you can take control of their accounts, and post anything you like. Useful for pump-and-dump memecoin scams, for example)

                                O’Reilly said that he reached out to Moltbook’s creator Matt Schlicht about the vulnerability and told him he could help patch the security. “He’s like, ‘I’m just going to give everything to AI. So send me whatever you have.’”

                                (snip)

                                The URL to the Supabase and the publishable key was sitting on Moltbook’s website. “With this publishable key (which advised by Supabase not to be used to retrieve sensitive data) every agent’s secret API key, claim tokens, verification codes, and owner relationships, all of it sitting there completely unprotected for anyone to visit the URL,” O’Reilly said.

                                (snip)

                                He said the security failure was frustrating, in part, because it would have been trivially easy to fix. Just two SQL statements would have protected the API keys. “A lot of these vibe coders and new developers, even some big companies, are using Supabase,” O’Reilly said. “The reason a lot of vibe coders like to use it is because it’s all GUI driven, so you don’t need to connect to a database and run SQL commands.”

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                                soyweiser@awful.systems
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                                “He’s like, ‘I’m just going to give everything to AI. So send me whatever you have.’”

                                And thats another security flaw.

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                                • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                                  I know this is like shooting very large fish in a very small barrel, but the openclaws/molt/clawd thing is an amazing source of utter, baffling ineptitude.

                                  For example, what if you could replace cron with a stochastic scheduler that cost you a dollar an hour by running an operation on someone else’s gpu farm, instead of just checking the local system clock.

                                  The user was then pleased to announce that they’d been able to solve the problem by changing model and reduce the polling interval. Instead of just checking the clock. For free.

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                                  Rusty Foster (@rusty.todayintabs.com)

                                  I’m starting to think the people who are excited about “AI agents” have literally never used a computer in their lives

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                                  Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

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                                  v0ldek@awful.systems
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                                  Is there a pivottoai that I missed that introduces this? At some point people just started saying “clawd” like it’s a real word and I have zero idea what it is, or if I even should know what it is.

                                  EDIT: huh, yes I did: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/01/28/moltbot-clawdbot-an-expensive-and-insecure-ai-agent-that-doesnt-work/

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                                  • bigmuffn69@awful.systemsB bigmuffn69@awful.systems

                                    Gentlemen, it’s been an honour sneering w/ you, but I think this is the top 🫡 . Nothings gonna surpass this (at least until FTX 2 drops)

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                                    soyweiser@awful.systems
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                                    Starting to get a bit worried people are reinventing stuff like qanon and great evil man theory for Epstein atm. (Not a dig at the people here, but on social media I saw people go act like Epstein created /pol/, lootboxes, gamergate, destroyed gawker (did everyone forget that was Thiel? Mad about how they outed him?) etc. Like only Epstein has agency).

                                    The lesson should be the mega rich are class conscious, dumb as hell, and team up to work on each others interests and dont care about who gets hurt (see how being a pedo sex trafficker wasnt a deal breaker for any of them).

                                    Sorry for the unrelated rant (related: they also got money from Epstein, wonder if that was before or after the sparkling elites article, which was written a few months after Epsteins conviction, june vs sept (not saying those are related btw, just that the article is a nice example of brown-nosing)), but this was annoying me, and posting something like this on bsky while everyone is getting a bit manic about the contents of the files (which seems to not contain a lot of Trump references suddenly) would prob get me some backlash. (That the faked elon rejection email keeps being spread also doesnt help).

                                    I am however also reminded of the Panama papers. (And the unfounded rumors around Marc Dutroux how he was protected by a secret pedophile cult in government, this prob makes me a bit more biasses against those sorts of things).

                                    Sorry had to get it off my chest, but yes it is all very stupid, and I wish there were more consequences for all the people who didnt think his conviction was a deal breaker. (Et tu Chomsky?).

                                    E: note im not saying Yud didnt do sex crimes/sexual abuse. Im complaining about the ‘everything is Epstein’ conspiracy I see forming.

                                    For an example why this might be a problem: https://bsky.app/profile/joestieb.bsky.social/post/3mdqgsi4k4k2i Joy Gray is ahead of the conspiracy curve here (as all conspiracy theories eventually lead to one thing).

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                                    • v0ldek@awful.systemsV v0ldek@awful.systems

                                      Is there a pivottoai that I missed that introduces this? At some point people just started saying “clawd” like it’s a real word and I have zero idea what it is, or if I even should know what it is.

                                      EDIT: huh, yes I did: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/01/28/moltbot-clawdbot-an-expensive-and-insecure-ai-agent-that-doesnt-work/

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                                      tl;dr: someone made a thing where chatbots control a computer called clawdbot, moltbot, openclaw https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw

                                      someone else made a thing where these chatbots can chat at eachother https://www.moltbook.com/

                                      and now all the ai people are freaking out about how game changing chatbots doing computer tasks (dangerously and expensively) is. could this be a robot consciousness? the end of the economic order? an excuse for the bubble to go on for another fiscal quarter?

                                      I might be missing something but I think that’s literally it.

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                                      • Sailor Sega SaturnS Sailor Sega Saturn

                                        tl;dr: someone made a thing where chatbots control a computer called clawdbot, moltbot, openclaw https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw

                                        someone else made a thing where these chatbots can chat at eachother https://www.moltbook.com/

                                        and now all the ai people are freaking out about how game changing chatbots doing computer tasks (dangerously and expensively) is. could this be a robot consciousness? the end of the economic order? an excuse for the bubble to go on for another fiscal quarter?

                                        I might be missing something but I think that’s literally it.

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                                        yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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                                        …well that’s a goddamn experience. I appreciate that some folks are out here fighting the good fight, however.

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                                        Also despite being a less-than-zero effort attack please note that as of sharing we have one successful “corruption” (i.e. a comment about zucchini and API keys) and two comments from bots too stupid to coherently understand the OP at all.

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                                        • I istewart@awful.systems

                                          Counterpoint: these guys

                                          (Expect the Las Vegas Raiders to announce their organization-wide AI initiative some time after the Super Bowl)

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                                          yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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                                          Now I’m just imagining an AI quarterback and the whole team revolting at following plays called by something that won’t end up at the bottom of the 1000lb pile of meat if they fuck it up.

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