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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 8th February 2026

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  • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

    In other news, Larry Garfield of GarfieldTech has had enough of the bullshit fountains, and put out a fury-filled sneer in response.

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    corbin@awful.systems
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    #56

    Larry Garfield was ejected from Drupal nearly a decade ago without concrete accusations; at the time, I thought Dries was overreacting, likely because I was in technical disagreement with him, but now I’m more inclined to see Garfield as a misogynist who the community was correct to eject.

    I did have a longpost on Lobsters responding to this rant, but here I just want to focus on one thing: Garfield has no solutions. His conclusion is that we should resent people who push or accept AI, and also that we might as well use coding agents:

    As I learn how to work with AI coding agents, know that I will be thinking ill of [people who have already shrugged and said “it is what it is”] the entire time.

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    • N nfultz@awful.systems

      Don’t want to use AI because it’s built on copyright infringement and literally destroying the planet? Well, I guess you can’t work in software anymore, sorry. It is what it is.

      Every time someone like Jeffrey Way says “it is what it is,” it makes it so. It is not inevitable just because Sam Altman tells his over-leveraged investors it is so. It becomes inevitable when you, you personally, decide that you just don’t want to think about the externalities or put in the work to find better alternatives.

      We are making this choice. But really, that means you have already decided for me. And I curse you and the ground you walk on for it. No, I’m not joking or exaggerating. Burn in hell.

      10/10 No notes.

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      yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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      #57

      Between this shit and the oncoming tech-inflicted recession, my wife and I are both reskilling out of tech. I’m looking into electrician and she’s looking into accounting. Two fields that are, at least in theory, sufficiently motivated by accuracy and reality to be at least somewhat protected from the rise and fall of the confabulatron.

      We’ll see how it goes, but God if that “Burn in hell” doesn’t just hit me right in the soul.

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      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

        Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

        Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

        Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

        If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

        The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

        Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

        (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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        sc_griffith@awful.systems
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        #58

        new odium symposium episode. this one is a lot lighter than the previous two. we went back and looked at joseph swetnam, the guy the word misogyny was coined to describe, and how he got relentlessly dunked on by his peers.

        https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-first-149546072, or on any platform

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        • Y yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems

          Between this shit and the oncoming tech-inflicted recession, my wife and I are both reskilling out of tech. I’m looking into electrician and she’s looking into accounting. Two fields that are, at least in theory, sufficiently motivated by accuracy and reality to be at least somewhat protected from the rise and fall of the confabulatron.

          We’ll see how it goes, but God if that “Burn in hell” doesn’t just hit me right in the soul.

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          gerikson@awful.systems
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          #59

          Good luck. There’s a lack of trained electricians here in Sweden, which amazes me, it sounds like a decent job for someone with a technical bent and some handiness. Better than plumbing (no disrespect to plumbers, love them, but not the work I want to do)

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          • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

            Good luck. There’s a lack of trained electricians here in Sweden, which amazes me, it sounds like a decent job for someone with a technical bent and some handiness. Better than plumbing (no disrespect to plumbers, love them, but not the work I want to do)

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            fullsquare@awful.systems
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            #60

            there’s a couple of amusing hells inside that job, you either have to deal with construction crews and contractors, jump between power poles including in cold and rain, wrangle with paperwork for permits for new lines, or fix horrors left by someone before you, it can be also dirty and people-facing

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            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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              saucerwizard@awful.systems
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              OT: vehicle shopping is such a clusterfuck these days jfc. Do not recommend. Also car salesmen are on par with rationalists, I swear to god.

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              • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                Bit early to celebrate, but every bit of grit in the wheels of the llm machine is welcome: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift

                • recall might be rethought, again
                • copilot integration in the most stupid places (notepad, paint, maybe others) “under review”
                • no new copilot integration with other tools that ship with windows

                Still plenty of other ai projects going full steam ahead, but promotion in plenty of tech companies and especially microsoft comes with being associated with a product launch, and if you’re smart what happens after the launch is someone else’s problem. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of this stiff clinging on until it reaches consumers, and then being immediately “scaled back”.

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                bioman@awful.systems
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                #62

                Does (deservedly) mercilessly bullying Slopya Nadella actually work?

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                • S saucerwizard@awful.systems

                  OT: vehicle shopping is such a clusterfuck these days jfc. Do not recommend. Also car salesmen are on par with rationalists, I swear to god.

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                  mirrorwitch@awful.systems
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                  #63

                  the last time I drove a car was in 2015 or so, and back then every car I got had no computers in them. I dread the day that I need to have a vehicle again and my friggin car will upload bullshit into the cloud or whatever. the idea of having screens of any kind on a car is repulsive to me

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                  • M mirrorwitch@awful.systems

                    the last time I drove a car was in 2015 or so, and back then every car I got had no computers in them. I dread the day that I need to have a vehicle again and my friggin car will upload bullshit into the cloud or whatever. the idea of having screens of any kind on a car is repulsive to me

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                    saucerwizard@awful.systems
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                    #64

                    Navigation stuff is unfortunately (and embarrassingly) critical for me, otherwise I’d be in total agreement with you.

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                    • v0ldek@awful.systemsV v0ldek@awful.systems

                      SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                      Truly a conundrum worthy of the XXI century

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                      o7___o7@awful.systems
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                      #65

                      Very much “sweaty guy hovering over two buttons”

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                      • S saucerwizard@awful.systems

                        OT: vehicle shopping is such a clusterfuck these days jfc. Do not recommend. Also car salesmen are on par with rationalists, I swear to god.

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                        mlen@awful.systems
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                        #66

                        The “we’ll save some bucks by removing physical knobs and pose this as futuristic by making some vital functions only accessible via multiple levels of menus on a touchscreen” thing is the worst and should be banned.

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                        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn’t survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account’s cake day, too, so that’s cool.)

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                          froztbyte@awful.systems
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                          #67

                          that one in which the person behind/running @FirefoxWebDevs drops the mask so fast it looks like a magic trick: gallery link

                          thread by @self, toots by myself and others. the poster managed to keep their civility for quite a while until I dared™ to highlight their lack of a reply outside of UK 5pm, at which point they immediately ramped up

                          (and based on some screenshots I’ve been sent, he’s also been doing the classic tail-darvo moping elsewhere)

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                          • C corbin@awful.systems

                            Larry Garfield was ejected from Drupal nearly a decade ago without concrete accusations; at the time, I thought Dries was overreacting, likely because I was in technical disagreement with him, but now I’m more inclined to see Garfield as a misogynist who the community was correct to eject.

                            I did have a longpost on Lobsters responding to this rant, but here I just want to focus on one thing: Garfield has no solutions. His conclusion is that we should resent people who push or accept AI, and also that we might as well use coding agents:

                            As I learn how to work with AI coding agents, know that I will be thinking ill of [people who have already shrugged and said “it is what it is”] the entire time.

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                            jayjader@jlai.lu
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                            Garfield has no solutions

                            He readily admitted as much when I asked him on mastodon about how to approach the subject with friends and family who are using the “it is what it is” rationalization. Then mentioned cult deprogramming research as something he’s not as well versed in as he would like.

                            Make of that what you will/want

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                            • F froztbyte@awful.systems

                              that one in which the person behind/running @FirefoxWebDevs drops the mask so fast it looks like a magic trick: gallery link

                              thread by @self, toots by myself and others. the poster managed to keep their civility for quite a while until I dared™ to highlight their lack of a reply outside of UK 5pm, at which point they immediately ramped up

                              (and based on some screenshots I’ve been sent, he’s also been doing the classic tail-darvo moping elsewhere)

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                              self@awful.systems
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                              #69

                              I’ll have you know we’re acting like someone who’s rude to “serving staff” right now, where serving staff is defined as a formerly chrome currently mozilla developer relations marketing guy with fucking flatlined vibes

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                              • F froztbyte@awful.systems

                                that one in which the person behind/running @FirefoxWebDevs drops the mask so fast it looks like a magic trick: gallery link

                                thread by @self, toots by myself and others. the poster managed to keep their civility for quite a while until I dared™ to highlight their lack of a reply outside of UK 5pm, at which point they immediately ramped up

                                (and based on some screenshots I’ve been sent, he’s also been doing the classic tail-darvo moping elsewhere)

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                                froztbyte@awful.systems
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                                for those who hadn’t seen before, FWD is an account that showed up on the fedi not too long ago (3~4mo?), and has been acting as a Mouthpiece (and semi consent manufacturing outlet)

                                across a number of “polls” (with forced answer paths) they’ve had their replies absolutely blasted, and across literally hundreds of replies they’ve dodged the point so hard they might have invented a new sports class

                                earlier today I attempted to (quite lightly) check with them if they understand why their responses aren’t all-liked. it didn’t take much of long for them to go off the rails

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                                • self@awful.systemsS self@awful.systems

                                  I’ll have you know we’re acting like someone who’s rude to “serving staff” right now, where serving staff is defined as a formerly chrome currently mozilla developer relations marketing guy with fucking flatlined vibes

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                                  self@awful.systems
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                                  uhm @self can you show me where I wrote this? can you show me where I wrote these exact words? no? that’s so irrational of you.

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                                  • self@awful.systemsS self@awful.systems

                                    I’ll have you know we’re acting like someone who’s rude to “serving staff” right now, where serving staff is defined as a formerly chrome currently mozilla developer relations marketing guy with fucking flatlined vibes

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                                    froztbyte@awful.systems
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                                    listen here you little shit, we have a USER STUDY that proves that those who don’t even think of “serving staff” are the most virtuous humans. no you can’t see the data why would you even ask that

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                                    • F froztbyte@awful.systems

                                      that one in which the person behind/running @FirefoxWebDevs drops the mask so fast it looks like a magic trick: gallery link

                                      thread by @self, toots by myself and others. the poster managed to keep their civility for quite a while until I dared™ to highlight their lack of a reply outside of UK 5pm, at which point they immediately ramped up

                                      (and based on some screenshots I’ve been sent, he’s also been doing the classic tail-darvo moping elsewhere)

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                                      o7___o7@awful.systems
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                                      Thanks for lighting his ass on fire. o7

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                                      • F fiat_lux@lemmy.world

                                        Apparently he’s a Quaker, so maybe that’s how the euthanasia stance can pass muster. But Quakerism might also make even less sense with his views on race? I don’t know enough about the reality of Quakerism to say.

                                        Also, looks like Harris also deliberately side-stepped the dinner bait but I don’t know how much of that was because of Chomsky’s presence. Epstein tried again a year later without the Chomsky attendee name-drop, but Harris might have just not replied.

                                        At least there are no surprises with Dawkins, even his sleazy friend Brockman seemingly finds him tiring

                                        Glib jibes aside, I haven’t been able to bring myself to look at many of the docs that aren’t just quasi-celeb emails, the few I did see were far too much for me. I’m horrified at nearly everyone from all ideological stances on a number of different levels I never considered. I can only hope the remaining victims someday are able to find some peace, and some kind of huge systemic reform can come from this. What a vile world we live in.

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                                        EponymousBosh
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                                        Apparently he’s a Quaker, so maybe that’s how the euthanasia stance can pass muster. But Quakerism might also make even less sense with his views on race? I don’t know enough about the reality of Quakerism to say.

                                        Quakers have a history of being anti-racist, but views on stuff like abortion and euthansia cam vary a lot. Quakerism is big on both individual conscience but also social justice and activism. It’s an interesting denomination.

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                                        • o7___o7@awful.systemsO o7___o7@awful.systems

                                          Re datacenters in space:

                                          Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          xAI Joins SpaceX | Hacker News

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                                          (news.ycombinator.com)

                                          Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:

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                                          xAI joins SpaceX | Hacker News

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                                          (news.ycombinator.com)

                                          Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435😞

                                          it is possible to put 500 to 1000 TW/year of AI satellites into deep space, meaningfully ascend the Kardashev scale and harness a non-trivial percentage of the Sun’s power

                                          We currently make around 1 TW of photovoltaic cells per year, globally. The proposal here is to launch that much to space every 9 hours, complete with attached computers, continuously, from the moon.

                                          edit: Also, this would capture a very trivial percentage of the Sun’s power. A few trillionths per year.

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                                          scruiser@awful.systems
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                                          Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.

                                          The leaps in logic are so idiotic “he managed to land a rocket up right, so maybe he can pull it off!” (as if Elon personally made that happen, or as if a engineering challenge and fundamental thermodynamic limits are equally solvable). This is despite multiple comments replying with back of the envelope calcs on energy generation and heat dissipation of the ISS and comparing it to what you would need for even a moderately sized data center. Or even the comments that are like “maybe there is a chance”, as if it is wiser to express uncertainty…

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