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'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in provocative speech at Davos

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    cornshark@lemmy.world
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    Tldr “if you don’t know, I’m not gonna tell you”

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    • C cornshark@lemmy.world

      Tldr “if you don’t know, I’m not gonna tell you”

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      kbal
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      Him I took the time to answer. You I will block.

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      • L lemonysplit@lemmy.ca

        Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it’s only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.

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        BurgerBaron
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        #30

        At least they’re keeping this charisma void for now: https://sendvid.com/w057xycg

        catbox kept breaking the file fml

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        • BurgerBaronB BurgerBaron

          Hopefully Macron hears this, given the leaked texts to Trump today.

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          ruuster13@lemmy.zip
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          Macron has been brilliant with foreign policy. A little less with domestic policy. Still he’s been boldly playing 4-D chess with Putin and 1-D checkers with Trump.

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            glide@lemmy.ca
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            I think I perceive that event as Trump appeasement more than authoritarian bullshit, but I at least get where you’re coming from, and I agree that it was a bullshit move. I liked Carney for being someone who I had believed would stand up to Trump, as opposed to our other option, who is still likely still trying to brush the flavour of boot leather out of his mouth. Doing shit to placate the orange turd is just going to empower him. We already saw this once with Hitler and the strategy of appeasement; we don’t need to see it again.

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            • T twinnie@feddit.uk

              Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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              reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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              I would love it, however we are an exporting economy so having the euro as our currency may hurt but also trade with the EU would be easier.

              The US is not going to be standing as it is by this time next year, maybe sooner.

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                'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in provocative speech at Davos | CBC News

                Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a frank assessment of how he views the world in a provocative speech in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday, where he said the longstanding U.S.-led, rules-based international order is over and middle powers like Canada must pivot to avoid falling prey to further "coercion" from powerful actors.

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                olivemoon@lemmy.ca
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                We have the most eloquent, educated, kick ass leader! I shudder to think what PP would be doing under these circumstances. He’d probably be peeing his pants…

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                • T StinkyFingerItchyBum

                  Reminds me of a Trudeau speech just before he left. He spoke to Canadians and used typical 6th grade english politicians use when adressing very large audiences. Then he adressed Trump directly, looked right into the camera and immediately switched to mono syllabic caveman speech. I swear you could even see a suppressed smirk peek through. I laughed so hard and long I couldn’t hear what he actually said to him.

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                  olivemoon@lemmy.ca
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                  But, it wasn’t Trudeau. Have you watched the Carney speech at Davos? The whole world stood and clapped. Carney has worked his ass off to find trades away from the U.S.

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                  • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                    But, it wasn’t Trudeau. Have you watched the Carney speech at Davos? The whole world stood and clapped. Carney has worked his ass off to find trades away from the U.S.

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                    StinkyFingerItchyBum
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                    I have no idea what you are talking about. You misread what I said.

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                    • G glide@lemmy.ca

                      I think I perceive that event as Trump appeasement more than authoritarian bullshit, but I at least get where you’re coming from, and I agree that it was a bullshit move. I liked Carney for being someone who I had believed would stand up to Trump, as opposed to our other option, who is still likely still trying to brush the flavour of boot leather out of his mouth. Doing shit to placate the orange turd is just going to empower him. We already saw this once with Hitler and the strategy of appeasement; we don’t need to see it again.

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                      The bill itself was full of maximally authoritarian bullshit, causing all the civil society groups to oppose it as loudly as they did. It remains around in some form, last I heard, still theoretically in the legislative process somewhere, a continuing threat to us all should the Liberals feel confident enough to try and pass any of the worst parts of it into law.

                      It might’ve been an attempt to appease Trump, or it might’ve been pushed by some Trumpist infiltrator within the party, I don’t know. Optimistically, we can hope that Carney wasn’t really aware of what was in it, and on a topic outside his areas of expertise he was simply misled by people he mistakenly chose to trust. In any case I’m sure he will have learned from the experience.

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                      • lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caL lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca

                        Doubt timbit trump will even be around next federal election.

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                        lemonysplit@lemmy.ca
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                        No, unfortunately they’ll probably learn from their mistake and find someone slightly less incompetent this time around. Which may be all they need to win

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                          iegod
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                          It’s a fair assessment of your approach, blocked or not.

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                          • S snoons@lemmy.ca

                            IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don’t think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.

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                            Jessie
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                            I think what OP may also be asking for are travel benefits. As it stands, EU citizens with an EU passport have extremely powerful benefits when travelling within + outside the EU.

                            I just wish we had an inter-ocean train…

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                              What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

                              Also NATO’s sec:

                              Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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                              agent641@lemmy.world
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                              Light mode? Gross

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                                Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a frank assessment of how he views the world in a provocative speech in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday, where he said the longstanding U.S.-led, rules-based international order is over and middle powers like Canada must pivot to avoid falling prey to further "coercion" from powerful actors.

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                                formfiller@lemmy.world
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                                He didn’t mention tech …tech is the most dangerous too the US has for subjugation right now. Any deal with any companies tied to musk, Thiel or Ellison are Bad Bad. I really don’t understand why Carney would join Trump and Netanyahu’s “peace board” that’s glaringly corrupt

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                                  Light mode? Gross

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                                  emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  The size of the text too omg it’s like one of those children’s leappad things.

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                                    I think what OP may also be asking for are travel benefits. As it stands, EU citizens with an EU passport have extremely powerful benefits when travelling within + outside the EU.

                                    I just wish we had an inter-ocean train…

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                                    snoons@lemmy.ca
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                                    We should all tell Carney to fast-track a 900 trillion dollar sub-ocean high speed rail tunnel.

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                                    • T twinnie@feddit.uk

                                      Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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                                      jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                                      The EU is working with Australia to grant non visa status. We’ll be next. The new world is connected, not isolationist. We don’t have to join the EU, the world is bigger than Europe, and we can just make our own co-op world. With blackjack and hookers and all the fun stuff.

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                                      • M markwandering@lemmy.ca

                                        Is Carney perfect? No. Is he the best PM we have had, and the perfect man for this situation? Yes.

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                                        jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                                        MacKenzie King. Carney’s new and doing well, but c’mon, best PM he’s not.

                                        Edit: yet?

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                                        • F formfiller@lemmy.world

                                          He didn’t mention tech …tech is the most dangerous too the US has for subjugation right now. Any deal with any companies tied to musk, Thiel or Ellison are Bad Bad. I really don’t understand why Carney would join Trump and Netanyahu’s “peace board” that’s glaringly corrupt

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                                          spacecowboy@lemmy.ca
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                                          He did… but just one sentence: “And on AI, we’re co-operating with like-minded democracies to ensure that we won’t ultimately be forced to choose between hegemons and hyperscalers.”

                                          And Carney was only invited to be on the board, but it seems we’re not going to be paying the billion dollars Trump is demanding. So it doesn’t seem likely that’s going to happen.

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