I couldn’t follow much from news outlets out of Canada.

Rotten Mango takes us through the deep dive. I think anyone with even a passing interest in Hockey, should give this a watch. But, just as the video warns, for those of you who cannot handle topics of sexual assault, please take care and stay safe.

EDIT: Here’s part one.

It took me too long to figure out she was saying ‘SA-ing’ and not ‘essay-ing.’ I thought it was new Gen Z slang.

I couldn’t follow much from news outlets out of Canada.

Rotten Mango takes us through the deep dive. I think anyone with even a passing interest in Hockey, should give this a watch. But, just as the video warns, for those of you who cannot handle topics of sexual assault, please take care and stay safe.

EDIT: Here’s part one.

It is new slang, and it wouldn’t be an issue if they simply used a video sharing platform that doesn’t subscribe to the Chinese communist government’s moral guidelines.

I didnt watch the video (2 hours? No thanks) but I think the judge made it clear that the primary witness gave unreliable and untrustworthy testimony which really sank her credibility in this case.

It hit peak head shaking wonder when the Crown prosecutor argued that just because she was sucking on a guy’s johnson doesnt mean she was consenting to other sex acts? Specifically “You cannot treat that as a communication of consent to any other sexual act.” Which means, in that lawyer’s world, one must ask consent to every individual act.

Does that include changing positions good sir? “Uh, just because I did doggy style doesnt mean I consented to reverse cowgirl. How DARE you assume I consented!”

Hmm, I get the impression these people have never actually had a sexual relationship? Probably just safer to print out a consent form for each act and then have both parties sign before each act to make it clear they were both ok with it. I heard that works /s

So you’re commenting on something you didn’t watch?

Yes, engaging in any sexual act is not implied consent for every sexual act. In what world is it hard to ask if someone wants something? They’re like, right there. Source: I’m a slut.

I didnt watch the video (2 hours? No thanks) but I think the judge made it clear that the primary witness gave unreliable and untrustworthy testimony which really sank her credibility in this case.

It hit peak head shaking wonder when the Crown prosecutor argued that just because she was sucking on a guy’s johnson doesnt mean she was consenting to other sex acts? Specifically “You cannot treat that as a communication of consent to any other sexual act.” Which means, in that lawyer’s world, one must ask consent to every individual act.

Does that include changing positions good sir? “Uh, just because I did doggy style doesnt mean I consented to reverse cowgirl. How DARE you assume I consented!”

Hmm, I get the impression these people have never actually had a sexual relationship? Probably just safer to print out a consent form for each act and then have both parties sign before each act to make it clear they were both ok with it. I heard that works /s

Honestly, this video is disingenuous.

No one is arguing that it can’t be SA just because they’re athletes, and that had nothing to do with the judge’s ruling.

The judge went through the evidence and it seemed more likely that she consented then not.

This is a better article and was extremely easy to find: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0qlwnyy70o

So because she’s giving one guy a blow job in your mind it means she wants to get relied from behind by another guy?

Honestly, this video is disingenuous.

No one is arguing that it can’t be SA just because they’re athletes, and that had nothing to do with the judge’s ruling.

The judge went through the evidence and it seemed more likely that she consented then not.

This is a better article and was extremely easy to find: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0qlwnyy70o

I’m I wrong or is it odd she did a consent video after the fact surrounded by a bunch of guys. Like they doesn’t seem like pressure to anyone else.

No because she’s giving a guy a blow job she can’t claim she didnt consent to having sex with that guy. Its a nonsensical claim.

Breaking news: you can give someone a blowjob and also not want to have sex with them.

I didnt watch the video (2 hours? No thanks) but I think the judge made it clear that the primary witness gave unreliable and untrustworthy testimony which really sank her credibility in this case.

It hit peak head shaking wonder when the Crown prosecutor argued that just because she was sucking on a guy’s johnson doesnt mean she was consenting to other sex acts? Specifically “You cannot treat that as a communication of consent to any other sexual act.” Which means, in that lawyer’s world, one must ask consent to every individual act.

Does that include changing positions good sir? “Uh, just because I did doggy style doesnt mean I consented to reverse cowgirl. How DARE you assume I consented!”

Hmm, I get the impression these people have never actually had a sexual relationship? Probably just safer to print out a consent form for each act and then have both parties sign before each act to make it clear they were both ok with it. I heard that works /s

It is new slang, and it wouldn’t be an issue if they simply used a video sharing platform that doesn’t subscribe to the Chinese communist government’s moral guidelines.

What’s wrong with exploring the details of a high profile case involving Hockey players sexually assaulting a woman? I think the videos are well researched, and together form up 3 hours of well thought out detail.

I point out that this is a deep dive into the issue, and you roll up with a BBC article that probably takes 5 minutes to read.

Also, I watched the videos, and there’s discussion about how badly the case was handled from all fronts; and, there’s treatment on how netizens have some consensus that there was very little likelihood that the charges would result in convictions because of how the laws are.

I won’t go over all the highlights. A few points raised for me were:

Criminal law standards vs morality standards - I felt that the video also distinguished the issue of the court’s formal finding of guilt or innocence based on a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. They even went over the moral issues that arose when exploring the culture of sexism in the Hockey players online “bible”, consent, and even the pinch points on evidence that were in favour of either the Hockey players and the complainant.

What’s society comfortable with issues of team sports and toxic behaviour? We’re being reminded about the ugly side of Hockey culture and whether we want these players to be flaunting their wealth and power around in this way. Or should they pay a price? Who should trust these roving packs of guys, travelling from town to town, grabbing at booze and women, then rushing home to their well compensated handlers at the first sign of trouble?

What credibility does Hockey Canada have? An organization that’s supposed to be hand holding these guys, and upholding some semblance of a honour/conduct system? There’s clips of the players making alleged statements to Hockey Canada for conduct over the allegations of sexual assault, and their statements are not even consistent with what ends up out during the criminal proceedings.

Breaking news: you can give someone a blowjob and also not want to have sex with them.

So you’re commenting on something you didn’t watch?

Yes, engaging in any sexual act is not implied consent for every sexual act. In what world is it hard to ask if someone wants something? They’re like, right there. Source: I’m a slut.

Yeah 2 hours of a full length feature movie with really good actors might hold my attention but two hours of a random youtuber, highly unlikely.

As for consent, sorry, Im used to being a loving committed relationship, not one night stands with strangers while cheating on my fiance after picking up someone in a bar. I know what my wife likes and doesnt like and once the train leaves the station, we’re not pausing to get ‘informed consent’ about every little change up. But you do you. Or someone else. Whichever

It took me too long to figure out she was saying ‘SA-ing’ and not ‘essay-ing.’ I thought it was new Gen Z slang.