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Montreal Mall with giant parking lot to be replaced by gardens and condos. Some neighborhood residents are unhappy. They say they don't want tall condos near their single-family homes.

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    dwazou@lemm.ee
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    What it currently looks like:

    https://costar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7706ba2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5000x3331+0+0/resize/2100x1399!/quality/100/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcostar-brightspot.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2F7f%2F04%2Feed9a1d24574ae823ff092216d18%2Faerial-2025-04-07t113800.729.jpg

    https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2025-05-12/feu-vert-a-la-demolition-et-a-la-transformation-de-la-place-versailles.php

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    • D dwazou@lemm.ee

      What it currently looks like:

      https://costar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7706ba2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5000x3331+0+0/resize/2100x1399!/quality/100/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcostar-brightspot.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2F7f%2F04%2Feed9a1d24574ae823ff092216d18%2Faerial-2025-04-07t113800.729.jpg

      https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2025-05-12/feu-vert-a-la-demolition-et-a-la-transformation-de-la-place-versailles.php

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      flandish
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      if you don’t want condos - buy the lot yourself and leave it the way you like. done.

      with investment comes risk. people need homes. that outweighs all of that risk when you choose not to buy the property yourself.

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      • F flandish

        if you don’t want condos - buy the lot yourself and leave it the way you like. done.

        with investment comes risk. people need homes. that outweighs all of that risk when you choose not to buy the property yourself.

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        toastmeister@lemmy.ca
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        The new housing minister would disagree, housing prices need to go up. Brookfield is a job creator and owns residential real estate.

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        • T toastmeister@lemmy.ca

          The new housing minister would disagree, housing prices need to go up. Brookfield is a job creator and owns residential real estate.

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          wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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          Source on that?

          I’ve literally been in the wilderness camping the last week and I have not seen any news really

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          • W wise_pancake@lemmy.ca

            Source on that?

            I’ve literally been in the wilderness camping the last week and I have not seen any news really

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            toastmeister@lemmy.ca
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            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCs7n00Xchg

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            • D dwazou@lemm.ee

              What it currently looks like:

              https://costar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7706ba2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5000x3331+0+0/resize/2100x1399!/quality/100/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcostar-brightspot.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2F7f%2F04%2Feed9a1d24574ae823ff092216d18%2Faerial-2025-04-07t113800.729.jpg

              https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2025-05-12/feu-vert-a-la-demolition-et-a-la-transformation-de-la-place-versailles.php

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              rekabis@lemmy.ca
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              #6

              I have not seen NIMBYism taken to this extreme before.

              Like, objecting to a mall I can understand.

              Objecting to green spaces and high-quality neighbourhoods? Like WTF, man?

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              • F flandish

                if you don’t want condos - buy the lot yourself and leave it the way you like. done.

                with investment comes risk. people need homes. that outweighs all of that risk when you choose not to buy the property yourself.

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                mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                ‘Oh, did you expect sunlight in the house you could afford? Should’ve bought ten million in additional property!’

                Be serious.

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                • D dwazou@lemm.ee

                  What it currently looks like:

                  https://costar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7706ba2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5000x3331+0+0/resize/2100x1399!/quality/100/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcostar-brightspot.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2F7f%2F04%2Feed9a1d24574ae823ff092216d18%2Faerial-2025-04-07t113800.729.jpg

                  https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2025-05-12/feu-vert-a-la-demolition-et-a-la-transformation-de-la-place-versailles.php

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                  mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                  Twenty-story highrises? Yeah, I get it. ‘Welcome to living in the shadow of a monolith! No sky for you.’ Perfectly reasonable for people to say, ‘can you not.’

                  If they were objecting to four-over-ones, nah, fuck 'em.

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                  • D dwazou@lemm.ee

                    What it currently looks like:

                    https://costar.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/7706ba2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5000x3331+0+0/resize/2100x1399!/quality/100/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcostar-brightspot.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2F7f%2F04%2Feed9a1d24574ae823ff092216d18%2Faerial-2025-04-07t113800.729.jpg

                    https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2025-05-12/feu-vert-a-la-demolition-et-a-la-transformation-de-la-place-versailles.php

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                    croquette@sh.itjust.works
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                    Was there a study made on the light impact on the surronding neighborhood?

                    If some people are losing the sunlight for all the day because of a 25 story building, that is a valid objection.

                    Otherwise, that is a great project that will give some life back to that neighborhood.

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                    • T toastmeister@lemmy.ca

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCs7n00Xchg

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                      wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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                      #10

                      Thanks

                      That’s a crappy answer to a crappy question.

                      If you say yes then you’re going to ruin people’s finances, and if you say no you’re going to let the crisis continue. You can’t increase supply without affecting prices, so I agree with increasing supply but doing so effectively will reduce prices, that’s the whole point of increasing supply.

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                      • C croquette@sh.itjust.works

                        Was there a study made on the light impact on the surronding neighborhood?

                        If some people are losing the sunlight for all the day because of a 25 story building, that is a valid objection.

                        Otherwise, that is a great project that will give some life back to that neighborhood.

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                        Nik282000
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                        It’s on the north side of the houses and will between the neighbourhood and a highway. If anything it will be quieter after the towers go in.

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                        • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

                          Twenty-story highrises? Yeah, I get it. ‘Welcome to living in the shadow of a monolith! No sky for you.’ Perfectly reasonable for people to say, ‘can you not.’

                          If they were objecting to four-over-ones, nah, fuck 'em.

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                          Nik282000
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                          The new buildings will be north of the existing neighbourhood, this is just NIMBY.

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                          • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

                            ‘Oh, did you expect sunlight in the house you could afford? Should’ve bought ten million in additional property!’

                            Be serious.

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                            auli@lemmy.ca
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                            It’s north of the people complaint don’t see how it would effect their sunlight.

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                            • R rekabis@lemmy.ca

                              I have not seen NIMBYism taken to this extreme before.

                              Like, objecting to a mall I can understand.

                              Objecting to green spaces and high-quality neighbourhoods? Like WTF, man?

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                              softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                              It’s becauae NIMBY groups are often headed by rich local property owners who don’t want affordable housing to bring down the value of their properties.

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                              • R rekabis@lemmy.ca

                                I have not seen NIMBYism taken to this extreme before.

                                Like, objecting to a mall I can understand.

                                Objecting to green spaces and high-quality neighbourhoods? Like WTF, man?

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                                dicjacobus@lemmy.ca
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                                Its the same thought process that makes people say things like “I hate wind turbines, they’re ugly and ruin the view”

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                                • D dicjacobus@lemmy.ca

                                  Its the same thought process that makes people say things like “I hate wind turbines, they’re ugly and ruin the view”

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                                  rekabis@lemmy.ca
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                                  Weellll… traditional large wind turbines have a shockingly low effectiveness/cost ratio, which is why they are best used in places where wind is blowing far more frequently than not, such as out in the ocean or on mountain tops. And they aren’t the prettiest. And they have massive space requirements to avoid negatively impacting each other.

                                  Honestly, I much prefer solar power, which can be very densely applied and hoisted high enough to permit agriculture beneath it.

                                  But yes.

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                                    It’s on the north side of the houses and will between the neighbourhood and a highway. If anything it will be quieter after the towers go in.

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                                    croquette@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Makes sense, I didn’t think about the position of Place Versailles next to the highway and the industrial/commercial neighborhood right next to it up north.

                                    Then it feels like straight NIMBYism.

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                                    • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

                                      ‘Oh, did you expect sunlight in the house you could afford? Should’ve bought ten million in additional property!’

                                      Be serious.

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                                      Victor Villas
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                                      Didn’t realize the developers were also planning a dome of darkness over the neighborhood

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