Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won’t be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.

As long as israel pretend that the whole land belong to them there is no solution

That is another part of the very, very complicated issue in the area yes. That does not negate the fact that change is required for lasting peace, and it needs to happen on all sides of the issue.

You really believe that Palestinians will keep attacking Israel if they give back the whole part of the west bank and gaza? Israel should get the hell out of Palestinians land regardless

Yes. I believe peace can prevail if the rest of the world stops fucking around.

Which is why Palestinians need to accept that Israel has a right to exist within the 1967 borders. Israel also needs to accept the fact that Palestine has a right to exist within the borders determined in 1967.

Not all the land is Palestinian land, and that is a matter of fact. Israelis, especially those indigenous to the area, have a right to exist there. Just like Palestinians have a right to exist there.

Carefully worded what-aboutism.

The absolute irony of quipping about poor choice of words… Jesus.

Do you believe in a two state solution?

It kinda does. They have an older claim than the Muslims.

I don’t. It is and always has been a stalling tactic for the purpose of ethnic cleansing. The only viable solution always has a been a one state solution of equal rights for all.

Now if the Palestinians want to accept a two state solution out of desperation, sure I can live with that. Coming from anyone else? Get absolutely the fuck out of here. No ethno states, period. And Israel must abide by international law and allow the right to return of refugees.

It is absolutely insane for Carney to suggest a Zionist Palestine.

Why the two state solution is impossible.

Most of the Palestinians accept Israel existence and agree with the pre 67 border it is Israel who refuse to accept it and keep building illegal settlements making a two state solution hard to accomplish , every single Israeli prime minister has oppressed Palestinians and believe the land was their either for religious or ethnic supremacy reasons.

Nothing but giving back all post 67 land to Palestinians , giving the right to return to Palestinians who was ethnically cleansing and want to go back to Israel while accepting their laws and also having an army to defend the state for any other potential aggression or a one state solution with equal rights to everybody would be accepted

This is so ridiculous . There was people before Israelites and after them in the land why do you think the jews has the eternal right over all other who lived in the land . You can’t even proof that the Zionists who are foreigners had any connection to the old Israelites. While we know from history that during the Arab conquest of the area there was no major ethnic cleansing so basically part of the Palestinians was jews and Christian converted to Islam and other are the product of intermarriage . 50k of the ethnically cleansing Palestinians in 48 was Christians so stop with your bad intention of making it about Muslims vs jews

We need to stand against genocidal wankers!

Why you needed to edit this 3 times in a couple of minutes I will never know. Likely hoping to get an out of context response I assume so I won’t bother actually responding to your genocidal rhetoric about a 1 state solution, or continue this conversation further as I see you as a major part of the problem and do not have the energy to deal with you.

Victimblaming nicely folded into this comment.

Fine here I reposted it as a single post.

I don’t. It is and always has been a stalling tactic for the purpose of ethnic cleansing. The only viable solution always has a been a one state solution of equal rights for all.

Now if the Palestinians want to accept a two state solution out of desperation, sure I can live with that. Coming from anyone else? Get absolutely the fuck out of here. No ethno states, period. And Israel must abide by international law and allow the right to return of refugees.

It is absolutely insane for Carney to suggest a Zionist Palestine.

Why the two state solution is impossible.

Please tell this jew how a one state, of equal rights, solution is genocidal. Go on.

Nothing but giving back all post 67 land to Palestinians , giving the right to return to Palestinians who was ethnically cleansing and want to go back to Israel while accepting their laws and also having an army to defend the state for any other potential aggression or a one state solution with equal rights to everybody would be accepted

You need to learn to recognize someone who agrees with you before arguing with them in the future. We know what needs to happen on the Israeli side for peace, my point is there is another side that has problems that need solving as well and that Palestinians are responsible for their side.

We do not agree. You make look like both side don’t want peace. I think it is israel who don’t want it because they still believe in jewish supermacy

There are people responsible on both sides. I will not argue with you about that fact.