We don’t need that , we need end of the genocide

Are you arguing that Canada recognizing Palestinian statehood would somehow extend the Israeli government’s genocide?

I would agree with Mona about her assessment regarding Canada being closer to recognizing Palestine officially as a state, much like many other countries currently who do not officially do so while still backing the Two state solution.

This was supposed to be brought up in the UN Conference hosted by France and Saudi Arabia, which has been postponed due to the fighting that broke out between Israel and Iran, so hopefully we can get that back on track as soon as possible as official recognition by the UN would put Israel into a worse position than they already find themselves in, and allow Palestine to finally have a seat at the table like they deserve.

From there, hopefully we can see a swifter resolution because Peace before recognition of statehood is simply not very likely to ever happen.

I am arguying that canada will use it as a smoke screen to keep supporting israel ehile pretrnfing not too. What the point of recognizing a state when palestinians will be ethenic cleansing and genocided. Will we have an empty palestinian state?

Pretty sad and embarrassing that we haven’t already but better late than never.

Canada needs to catch up to Ireland, Spain and Norway on this issue.

Yes but also not really. The two state solution is a band aid at best, and a stalling tactic at worst. Without a full return to at the very least pre 1967 borders, there’s no way this is going to be any sort of morally justifiable. You truly think Israel is gonna get those settlers out? Ain’t gonna happen. Let alone the right of return of Palestinian refugees or reparations.

Being officially recognized as a state would grant Palestine numerous protections and rights that it currently does not have as an Observer state in the UN.

And agree on the borders.

Which protections? Israel is detetmined to do the final solution right now. No indication if anything stopping them. At this point we need real actions. Complete end of all arms transfers including defensive one and state wide sanctions. Russian level of sanctions is the minimum

Israel never respected a single goddamn internationsl law. Ot’s not the UN who is going to stop that. It’s members countries who should do russian level sanctions on israel and end trade deals with them. Stop selling and buying military equipments to israel

I agree, collectively Global Governments should be harder on Israel.

That does not mean that official recognition is not a step towards that goal, or an unimportant issue.

My issue is canada , france and uk ulterior motives and not the action of recognizing Palestine as a state

For France, this roadmap should guarantee Israel’s security and regional integration as well as meet the the legitimate aspiration of the Palestinians to have their own State. We must therefore build a robust and credible framework for the “day after” in Gaza: work to disarm and sideline Hamas, which should no longer be a threat to Israel, establish credible governance and reform the Palestinian Authority. The United Nations and its agencies have an important role to play in this process.

France is determined to advance the implementation of the Two-State solution

In June, France and Saudi Arabia will co-chair the International Conference for the Peaceful Settlement of the Palestinian Question and the Implementation of the Two-State Solution.

France ONU (onu.delegfrance.org)

Look at how France position is about Palestinians state. No acknowledging of the occupation, preceding the occupier security over the occupied security . Ask for Palestinians to disarms without any security guarantees.

I also don’t trust the Palestinian authority all they kept doing is crushing all oppositions, collaborate with Israel while doing nothing to protect Palestinians against settler violence . An election is needed for the Palestinian authority that represent the real will of the west bankers

The recognition should be unconditional and be transparent about what kind of pressure should be imposed on Israel who refuse any Palestinians state

Fighting didn’t break out between Israel and Iran. Israel attacked Iran as a proxy for the USA.

Up until Israel attacked Iran directly Israel had been fighting Iranian proxies, and repelling Iranian rockets.

It is quite obvious that Israel and the US coordinated the attacks against Iran, but they are long standing enemies, and “fighting broke out between Israel and Iran” is objectively accurate because they are not officially at war.

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As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members.

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A plurality stands with the people of Palestine.

What’s the disagreement?

At this point, it should be clear that mirroring the US’s stance won’t get Canada any benefits anymore. So we should just drop the appeasement and speak for world order instead of for genocide.

Probably not.