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Canada rescinds Digital Services Tax after Trump cuts off U.S. trade talks

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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    Swordgeek
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    FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

    Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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    • C yeehaw

      This is not what I voted for. What the fuck?

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      john_lemmy@slrpnk.net
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      You can’t really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

      I hope there are local groups and organizations where you’re at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

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      • Daniel QuinnD Daniel Quinn

        Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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        floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

        That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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          unclegrandpa@lemmy.world
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          Never ever ever attempt to appease trump.

          It will not work. He will never admit when he is wrong

          And he is totally untrustworthy and will NOT keep his side of any deal

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          • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

            It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

            That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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            Daniel Quinn
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            Exactly this. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, so I guess it’s nice to see others coming around to it.

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            • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

              Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there’s a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I’m guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn’t have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it’ll be easier to keep Quebec’s support during the next election.

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              Concetta
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              It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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                candid_andy@lemmy.ca
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                Lose a battle to win a war.

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                  It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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                  sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                  From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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                  • candid_andy@lemmy.caC candid_andy@lemmy.ca

                    Lose a battle to win a war.

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                    radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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                    #53

                    Canada is just calling the US’s bluff, because it’s not actually about the DST. Now Canada has proof they’re negotiating in good faith with an admin that couldn’t care less about honouring deals.

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                    • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                      From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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                      Concetta
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                      It’s not even a matter of paying more for dairy, we would not have dairy farmers if we allowed American Dairy to flood our borders. https://youtu.be/PjBdZPnaDfc they literally have a massive underground facility because of the amount of cheese they overproduce.

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                      • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

                        ABC results in voting NDP and sometimes Green, Animal Liberation, etc. but not CPC or LPC.

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                        enkers
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                        Maybe in theory, but liberals never reciprocate. We gave up multiple incumbent ridings to the Conservatives because people voted for Carney instead of the incumbent NDP, who were IMO better candidates.

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                        • W walktheplank@lemmy.world

                          The explanation is money. Now let’s stop this shit. Time to get organized. Start or join a protest group. Let’s not wait until it’s too late like south of us.

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                          neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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                          This is the way

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                          • C cm0002@lemmy.world
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                            periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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                            FFS

                            If you give him an inch, he’ll take a mile

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                            • L lembot_0004@discuss.online

                              Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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                              jhex@lemmy.world
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                              another dummy who does not understand how tariffs work or who pays them

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                              • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

                                Canada is just calling the US’s bluff, because it’s not actually about the DST. Now Canada has proof they’re negotiating in good faith with an admin that couldn’t care less about honouring deals.

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                                jhex@lemmy.world
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                                lol like we needed proof trumpeisall bad faith and ignorance… we are literally re negotiating the very trade aggreement trump signed 5 years ago and unilaterally tore

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                                • C yeehaw

                                  PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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                                  masterofn001
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                                  Because we’re always told they don’t have a shot.

                                  But, let’s just say, as of today, nobody votes liberal again. It would likely be the party that also gave use universal healthcare to at least take a minority.

                                  No more vote splitting.

                                  The only party that is remotely aligned with the people is the NDP. (And some greens.)

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                                    blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                    Why!? You aren’t going to beat TACO with CACO, for heaven’s sake.

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                                    • S Swordgeek

                                      FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

                                      Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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                                      lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca
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                                      Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                                      • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                                        Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                                        patatas@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Since you said something similar in response to a different post, I’ll give a similar response to the one I did there:

                                        I have my doubts that Canadian companies would have all increased their google/facebook ad budgets over this.

                                        Anyway if it didn’t matter to those companies then why were they so opposed to it

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                                        • C yeehaw

                                          PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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                                          enkers
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                                          If nobody votes for the party that actually represents their interests, then shockingly the party that represents their interests will not have a shot. It’s a self-defeating strategy.

                                          “Strategic” voting is a long term recipe for a US-style system where there’s only room for two parties.

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