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Canada won’t become the 51st US state – but could it join the EU?

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  • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

    Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

    “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

    While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

    “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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    Cyborganism
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    If it can bring more holidays and better working conditions, then I’m all in.

    4 weeks minimum paid vacations would be hella nice.

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    • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

      Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

      “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

      While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

      “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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      kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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      We don’t need to join the EU in order to build closer ties with them and to adopt some of their more progressive regulatory frameworks.

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      • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

        Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

        “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

        While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

        “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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        ulrich_the_old@lemmy.ca
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        I would be happy to be part of the EU. Also the fact that it would upset trump is a bonus.

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        • C Cyborganism

          If it can bring more holidays and better working conditions, then I’m all in.

          4 weeks minimum paid vacations would be hella nice.

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          windex007@lemmy.world
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          I’m pretty sure it’s a requirement to have proportional representation, so I’d jump at the opportunity if only as an excuse to abolish FPTP.

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          • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

            Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

            “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

            While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

            “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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            teppa
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            #6

            No thanks, the Euro area has enough problems itself. Hence their desire to rush in a CBDC, and to limit free speech.

            This report outlines the economic fantasy land of Europe the best.

            https://icecap.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2022.02-IceCap-Global-Outlook.pdf

            “To demonstrate our skepticism towards the Europeans’ ability to achieve escape
            velocity and forever leave behind their zombie banking system, unmarketable
            debt and complete dependence on suppressing price discovery - consider the
            following policy reactions orchestrated by the European Central Bank (ECB) since
            the 2008-09 crisis:
            • European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF)
            • European Financial Stabilisation Mechanism (EFSM)
            • European Stability Mechanism (ESM)
            • Outright Monetary Transactions (OMT)
            • Long Term Refinancing Operation (LTRO)
            • Long Term Refinancing Operation II (LTRO)
            • Long Term Refinancing Operation III (LTRO)
            • Tripartite Committee consisting of ECB, IMF, EC agreement (TROIKA)
            • Forced austerity and bailouts of Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain
            • Activation of FED USD Swap Lines
            • Asset Purchase Program (APP)
            • Corporate sector purchase programme (CSPP)
            • Public sector purchase programme (PSPP)
            • Asset-backed securities purchase programme (ABSPP)
            • Covered Bond Purchase Programme (CBPP)
            • Covered Bond Purchase Programme II (CBPP)
            • Covered Bond Purchase Programme III (CBPP)
            • Pandemic Emergency Purchase Programme (PEPP)
            • Quantitative Easing (QE)
            • Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP)
            • Negative Interest Rate Policy (NIRP)
            Recal”

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            • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

              Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

              “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

              While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

              “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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              doc3vil@lemm.ee
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              #7

              So they can dump their migrant problem on us? Nah - I’m cool with not having vehicle ramming attacks every other month

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              • W windex007@lemmy.world

                I’m pretty sure it’s a requirement to have proportional representation, so I’d jump at the opportunity if only as an excuse to abolish FPTP.

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                Cyborganism
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                Unfortunately no, that isn’t the case. Some countries do, some don’t. It’s not a requirement.

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                • C Cyborganism

                  Unfortunately no, that isn’t the case. Some countries do, some don’t. It’s not a requirement.

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                  mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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                  Couldn’t hurt our case though, right?

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                  • T teppa

                    No thanks, the Euro area has enough problems itself. Hence their desire to rush in a CBDC, and to limit free speech.

                    This report outlines the economic fantasy land of Europe the best.

                    https://icecap.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2022.02-IceCap-Global-Outlook.pdf

                    “To demonstrate our skepticism towards the Europeans’ ability to achieve escape
                    velocity and forever leave behind their zombie banking system, unmarketable
                    debt and complete dependence on suppressing price discovery - consider the
                    following policy reactions orchestrated by the European Central Bank (ECB) since
                    the 2008-09 crisis:
                    • European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF)
                    • European Financial Stabilisation Mechanism (EFSM)
                    • European Stability Mechanism (ESM)
                    • Outright Monetary Transactions (OMT)
                    • Long Term Refinancing Operation (LTRO)
                    • Long Term Refinancing Operation II (LTRO)
                    • Long Term Refinancing Operation III (LTRO)
                    • Tripartite Committee consisting of ECB, IMF, EC agreement (TROIKA)
                    • Forced austerity and bailouts of Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain
                    • Activation of FED USD Swap Lines
                    • Asset Purchase Program (APP)
                    • Corporate sector purchase programme (CSPP)
                    • Public sector purchase programme (PSPP)
                    • Asset-backed securities purchase programme (ABSPP)
                    • Covered Bond Purchase Programme (CBPP)
                    • Covered Bond Purchase Programme II (CBPP)
                    • Covered Bond Purchase Programme III (CBPP)
                    • Pandemic Emergency Purchase Programme (PEPP)
                    • Quantitative Easing (QE)
                    • Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP)
                    • Negative Interest Rate Policy (NIRP)
                    Recal”

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                    canuck@sh.itjust.works
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                    Yea I would not want to give up monetary sovereignty to them either, it will not work long term, and the needed bailouts are just a symptom of the larger issues

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                    • M mad_lentil@lemmy.ca

                      Couldn’t hurt our case though, right?

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                      Cyborganism
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                      Yeah. Couldn’t hurt.

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                      • D doc3vil@lemm.ee

                        So they can dump their migrant problem on us? Nah - I’m cool with not having vehicle ramming attacks every other month

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                        bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                        Are they driving the vehicles across the ocean to ram you?

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                        • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                          Are they driving the vehicles across the ocean to ram you?

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                          doc3vil@lemm.ee
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                          Cars don’t kill people, people kill people. Go look up vehicle ramming attacks by migrants in Europe the past decade.

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                          • D doc3vil@lemm.ee

                            Cars don’t kill people, people kill people. Go look up vehicle ramming attacks by migrants in Europe the past decade.

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                            thalion@lemmy.ca
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                            Ignoring whether this is a thing or not, those migrants would still be in Europe… Not Canada. The European Union and the Schengen zone are not the same thing.

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                            • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                              Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

                              “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

                              While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

                              “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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                              anachronist@midwest.social
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                              Sorry we’re not getting along Canada but we have an illegal alien you’re going to have to take back. He’s addicted to a lot of drugs, and is a deadbeat dad many times over. His favorite hobby is accusing people of pedophillia.

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                              • D doc3vil@lemm.ee

                                Cars don’t kill people, people kill people. Go look up vehicle ramming attacks by migrants in Europe the past decade.

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                                bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                We’ve already had people in cars in Canada ramming Muslims, but joining Europe isn’t going to cause a guy in Europe to drive across and ram a Canadian family. They would have to travel here first, and if they are the type of person to plan a flight to rent a car to ram people, they are going to do that anyway

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                                • A anachronist@midwest.social

                                  Sorry we’re not getting along Canada but we have an illegal alien you’re going to have to take back. He’s addicted to a lot of drugs, and is a deadbeat dad many times over. His favorite hobby is accusing people of pedophillia.

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                                  xyro@lemmy.ca
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                                  Keep your trash in your side of the border

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                                  • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                                    Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

                                    “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

                                    While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

                                    “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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                                    acargitz
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                                    Closer integration and cooperation, yes absolutely. Membership, no.

                                    We don’t need to be anyone’s 51st state and we don’t need to be anyone’s 28th member state.

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                                    • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                                      Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

                                      “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

                                      While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

                                      “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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                                      nib@lemmy.world
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                                      First, Canada should just join Eurovision. This should be mandatory IMO, for all european members, candidates and future prospects.

                                      But realzies, Canada is just too far away. They can get a trade deal and join in for certain policies(environmental, etc) but ultimately, unions mostly make sense for neighbours. I dont think either the EU or Canada will benefit that much from a union, at least for now. Maybe in a few decades, after both sides integrate better and have common policies, things will be different. However, if globalization collapses and the US keeps going the way it is going, i can see this accelerating things.

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                                      • acargitzT acargitz

                                        Closer integration and cooperation, yes absolutely. Membership, no.

                                        We don’t need to be anyone’s 51st state and we don’t need to be anyone’s 28th member state.

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                                        nalivai@lemmy.world
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                                        That’s not really how EU works

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                                        • T thalion@lemmy.ca

                                          Ignoring whether this is a thing or not, those migrants would still be in Europe… Not Canada. The European Union and the Schengen zone are not the same thing.

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                                          nalivai@lemmy.world
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                                          And it’s not a thing btw.

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