Controversial opinion: This is actually a very good thing.

You must be a sane one. Maga wouldn’t watch Futurama. It’s too “woke”.

Only if it comes back up again eventually.

Yup. 100 million by 2100 is actually an amateur number. We need to pump those numbers up - maybe to 150.

But on the other hand, we do need to let the housing supply catch up a bit.

That’s not controversial at all among real life tim hortons Canadians. We don’t have enough houses for immigrants right now. Or really any infrastructure for that matter. The facts do not lie.

I don’t give a damn about population % changes. Show me the metrics that actually matter:

• Housing creation rates (not speculative units, but livable homes)
• Quality job growth (not gig economy scraps, but jobs that pay living wages)
• Real income gains (adjusted for inflation, not corporate PR)
• Public investment in healthcare and education (not austerity dressed as ‘efficiency’)

Immigration has always been a neoliberal scapegoat to distract the misinformed while they gutted worker power and protected capital. The crisis isn’t people; it’s policy.

We could be on track for real progress right now for the first time in decades if it weren’t for Trump

Agreed. Build more dense housing, incentivize more public transit, and plan for both of those things to become higher in demand (and close the TFW minimum wage loophole), then we can start inviting folks into our country again to provide us the value that they objectively can.

Bad news from a lifelong Albertan: I’ve seen MAGA gear here from other lifelong Albertans. The problem has already leaked here. But tbh I still would be in favour of barring MAGA from Canada on the basis that they threatened our sovereignty.

But for good news, MAGA are woefully bad at pretending to be normal and can’t help but to bring up their deranged politics at the dinner table.

Where do houses and infrastructure come from? Does the government wave a wand and they appear?

They could do that but the entire CPP is invested into REITs so it won’t happen.

You dodged the question.

We need provinces and the feds to communicate and plan together more effectively in both immigrations and housing terms. We need to have a plan to make sure that people coming in have housing and employment opportunities without a public opinion developing that these opportunities are being taken away from existing Canadians.

Currently the feds can say we want to bring in 1 million people, the provinces can say sure but we won’t plan for that at all (but they do want the workers) and then throw the feds under the bus when the province faces a housing crisis. Then the local politicians spin it as either exclussively the feds fault or even blame the immigrants, as if they had any say in housing or employment development.

Are you implying houses are only built by immigrants

Obviously not. Where do houses and infrastructure come from, though? Like, what’s involved in the creation of these things.

They don’t come from anywhere when your entire economy rides on inflated real estate values

Why do you refuse to answer the question I asked?

I literally don’t know what you want from me

…To answer the question I asked.

Crown corporations/government contracts and loans