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Carney says Canada will spend 5% of its GDP on defence by 2035

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  • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

    Exactly, and for now there’s some reason to give Carney the benefit of the doubt that a good chunk would be spent domestically. I’m still skeptical but I gave some hope that’s how it’ll turn out.

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    notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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    #16

    Ya, like maybe let’s build some ammo manufacturing capacity (as an example) instead of just buying it all out of country.

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    • agm@lemmy.caA agm@lemmy.ca

      Trump is the one who pushed for it in the first place! It was his idea. This is all driven by the US. Trump pushed NATO to a 5% target and Hegseth pushed Europe to reindustrialize their defense industry. There’s no way NATO was going to a 5% target if not for Trump. It’s entirely because he wants it.

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      notsteve_@lemmy.ca
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      I mean in a way it’s because of Trump, but not because he asked for it. One of the largest militaries in the world is now in the hands of a fucked up abomination made up of a demented old narcissist, the Heritage Foundation and Russia.

      I honestly feel a lot better knowing Canada and Europe are putting more money into the military, especially given the annexation threats

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      • N notsteve_@lemmy.ca

        I mean in a way it’s because of Trump, but not because he asked for it. One of the largest militaries in the world is now in the hands of a fucked up abomination made up of a demented old narcissist, the Heritage Foundation and Russia.

        I honestly feel a lot better knowing Canada and Europe are putting more money into the military, especially given the annexation threats

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        agm@lemmy.ca
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        It’s very much all happening at Trump’s behest. The idea that Trump is an actual threat to NATO is silly. Why would he push NATO countries to increase their defense spending target by 150% if he was planning on actually invading? He is very pleased with a more militarized NATO. He just used fear to motivate the public in NATO countries to open their wallets for more defense spending so the US can concentrate their resources on China. He scared and bullied NATO countries into doing what he wanted.

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        • G grte@lemmy.ca

          I’m sorry but cutting regulations and giving handouts to business for “development” has been the order of the day for the last 40 years and it’s been bullshit. It’s not any less bullshit because a new red tory face is selling it. It will end up the same old story: Huge promises of future income fall flat followed by “necessary” cuts.

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          nouveau_burnswick@lemmy.world
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          It should be a crown corporation to count as part of NATO spending.

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          • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

            On domestic production right? 🤔

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            BurgerBaron
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              Carney says Canada will spend 5% of its GDP on defence by 2035

              Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada and its NATO allies have agreed to substantially hike their defence spending target to five per cent of annual GDP by 2035.

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              njm1314@lemmy.world
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              That’s just an insane number.

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              • agm@lemmy.caA agm@lemmy.ca

                It’s very much all happening at Trump’s behest. The idea that Trump is an actual threat to NATO is silly. Why would he push NATO countries to increase their defense spending target by 150% if he was planning on actually invading? He is very pleased with a more militarized NATO. He just used fear to motivate the public in NATO countries to open their wallets for more defense spending so the US can concentrate their resources on China. He scared and bullied NATO countries into doing what he wanted.

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                uuldika@lemmy.ml
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                Why would he push NATO countries to increase their defense spending target by 150% if he was planning on actually invading?

                Trump isn’t planning to invade NATO (except maybe Greenland.) he’s planning to leave NATO. NATO exists to protect the Western world, and its highly interconnected economies. it’s a globalist project, and the US’s role as de-facto leader of NATO gave us the ability to project tremendous soft military power, the same way the dollar lets us project soft economic power.

                MAGA are isolationists. NATO protects “the West,” but Trump doesn’t care about the West, only America. so what if Putin carves up Europe? has Europe even said “thank you?” they’re screwing us over, just look at the trade deficit! that’s the logic.

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                • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

                  I think most of it will be spent intentionally avoiding the US.

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                  uuldika@lemmy.ml
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                  friendship ended with Raytheon. now Rhinemetall is my best friend.

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                  • cecilkorik@lemmy.caC cecilkorik@lemmy.ca

                    So apparently Canada got something they were asking for for a long time, and NATO is willing to recognize our resource projects for “critical minerals” as part of our defense budget. The 5% is still a huge target, but it seems we do have some more options in how we actually reach it now, that don’t involve just sending money to other countries to buy their military equipment. So hopefully these investments in critical minerals will actually be able to benefit our economy directly and limit the need for significant cuts elsewhere.

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                    circav@lemmy.ca
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                    #24

                    It won’t benefit Canadians. It will benefit shareholders. Canada wont be mining critical minerals - private (not necessarily Canadian) companies will.

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                    • U uuldika@lemmy.ml

                      Why would he push NATO countries to increase their defense spending target by 150% if he was planning on actually invading?

                      Trump isn’t planning to invade NATO (except maybe Greenland.) he’s planning to leave NATO. NATO exists to protect the Western world, and its highly interconnected economies. it’s a globalist project, and the US’s role as de-facto leader of NATO gave us the ability to project tremendous soft military power, the same way the dollar lets us project soft economic power.

                      MAGA are isolationists. NATO protects “the West,” but Trump doesn’t care about the West, only America. so what if Putin carves up Europe? has Europe even said “thank you?” they’re screwing us over, just look at the trade deficit! that’s the logic.

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                      agm@lemmy.ca
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                      The US isn’t leaving NATO. The US just got everything it wanted from NATO, and they still hold massive sway over the alliance. This was just another threat to put fear into the public and the leaders of NATO states so they would pay more money. That’s Trump’s main focus. He wants other people to pay for what suits the US instead of the US doing so.

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