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    Trump wants Canada's digital services tax gone before trade talks resume | CBC News

    U.S. President Donald Trump says he's ending all trade discussions with Canada to hit back at Ottawa for slapping a tax on web giants — and he wants it removed before negotiations can begin again.

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    teppa
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    Why is it only 3%, what is it about being digital that avoids standard tax rates?

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      [Canada] has just announced that they are putting a Digital Services Tax on our American Technology Companies, which is a direct and blatant attack on our Country," Trump said.

      Taxing Meta, Apple, and Amazon for business they do in Canada is an attack on the United States?

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      circav@lemmy.ca
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      We didn’t “just announce” it materialized three years ago and makes total sense to have in place from Canada’s POV. Dumbass Trump is wrong and lying or both - yet again.

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        chetwisniewski@lemmy.securitycafe.ca
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        The US has been really flaky lately. Have you tried rebooting it?

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          Now is the time to introduce higher Digital Services Tax rate.

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          circav@lemmy.ca
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          I will be so pissed if Carney or anyone negotiating folds on anything. The US started all of this shitstorm. We (Canada) are the aggrieved party in this situation, we were following CUSMA, the US broke that agreement. Fuck the USA. Fuck concessions to the USA. They can fuck off into the Sun. I don’t want or need Netflix, amazon, airbnb, Uber, google, azure, microsoft, apple. I could care less if those companies pull out of Canada.

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            humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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            Not only are pig fucker mega tech profiting off Canadians tax free, and among the richest companies in the world, they are CIA/US empire militarist enablers/cooperators who will happily enslave Canadians to that empire. The fearmongering you are programmed about CCP allied companies, should be 1000x higher with US’s declared war on Canada, and their tech companies.

            Their profit extortion alone (not even revenues) is sufficient to overcome whatever small surpluses Canada has enjoyed over US in good trade. It is categorically treasonous and sickening that Canada’s leadership continues military alignment with US.

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            • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

              Not sure what applies o amazon. They do have advertising/sponsored listings, but don’t know if tax applies on overall business.

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              grappling7155@lemmy.ca
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              Amazon Web Services is the world’s most popular cloud provider and where a massive chunk of their profit comes from. Lots of people don’t seem to know about it, but their logistics arms is almost like a side hustle compared to AWS

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                chuck@lemmy.ca
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                So US bond sell off predicted on Monday boys

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                  gamegod@lemmy.ca
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                  I’ve never wanted the Digital Services Tax more than right now, lol.

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                    Why is it only 3%, what is it about being digital that avoids standard tax rates?

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                    masterofn001
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                    3 % of billions of things is more than 15% of millions of things.

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                      montreal_metro@lemmy.ca
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                      No problem. The boycott continues. If they don’t pay tax then they are stealing from us, so torrent away.

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                        3 % of billions of things is more than 15% of millions of things.

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                        mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                        Sure but you take 3% out of my $10 and I have $9.70.

                        But take 15% out of your $100 and you still have $85.

                        They can pay their taxes.

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                          justadrone@lemmy.ca
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                          A TACO says what?

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                            corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                            See if Drug Fraud can blink the lights a bit.

                            Recall the ambassador, cut the power, wait for the phone call so you can pass on the new rates (spoiler: it’s 1% higher permanently each time).

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                              No problem. The boycott continues. If they don’t pay tax then they are stealing from us, so torrent away.

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                              walktheplank@lemmy.world
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                              Jokes on them. Been torrenting their shit for a couple decades now.

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                                Now’s a pretty good time to end Microsoft licenses and other crap ass US platforms 🥰

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                                The government and a lot of other companies are absolutely incapable of not using Excel and Azure services. It’s possible they could teach people new tools but databases, tables, excel files, VBA stuff, SQL etc… Is just not going to get changed. Alternatives are way too expensive and the sheer amount of work to make sure every single ETL rule is followed would be absolutely insane. The cybersecurity alone will make it a no go.

                                No AI will not solve this.

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                                  The government and a lot of other companies are absolutely incapable of not using Excel and Azure services. It’s possible they could teach people new tools but databases, tables, excel files, VBA stuff, SQL etc… Is just not going to get changed. Alternatives are way too expensive and the sheer amount of work to make sure every single ETL rule is followed would be absolutely insane. The cybersecurity alone will make it a no go.

                                  No AI will not solve this.

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                                  teppa
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                                  Postgres is very cheap.

                                  VB is garbage and anything using it should have been scrapped decades ago.

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                                    The government and a lot of other companies are absolutely incapable of not using Excel and Azure services. It’s possible they could teach people new tools but databases, tables, excel files, VBA stuff, SQL etc… Is just not going to get changed. Alternatives are way too expensive and the sheer amount of work to make sure every single ETL rule is followed would be absolutely insane. The cybersecurity alone will make it a no go.

                                    No AI will not solve this.

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                                    bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                    You don’t need excel, you could convert to libreoffice spreadsheets, there may be a few functions that need adjustment, but I have found its pretty much feature for feature. There are also so many SQL derivatives mariaDB, mySQL, postgresSQL. There would be a few pains, but as Europe has already realized we need data and software sovereignty

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                                      Sure but you take 3% out of my $10 and I have $9.70.

                                      But take 15% out of your $100 and you still have $85.

                                      They can pay their taxes.

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                                      mrnobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Thats false equivalency. Billions is the larger number and since a billion is 1000x a million, it would be 3% of their $10000 and 15% of your $10. So its their $300 tax vs your $1.50 tax. Sure they are still better off, however (un)fair that may be, but it was more in tax than you actually hold, by a wide margin.

                                      Or course we could, and should, argue it should be reveresed, but thats just yelling in to the wind at this point.

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                                        slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works
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                                        Thank God, he’s finally shuttin’ up

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                                          Bye Felicia

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