Line has to go up.

Where does that extra money that we now pay for groceries go?

There was a huge boom in profits starting in 2022 through to today. We’ve never seen profit-taking like this. It was an unbelievably great time for corporate Canada. When you break it down by industry, most of those profits were going to oil and gas. For example, in the supply chain of potato chips there’s diesel used to farm the potatoes, cook them, and move them to stores. A lot of that increase didn’t go to the grocery store selling the chips. It went to energy companies.

dog food is about double what it was in 2020. Say what you will about the cost of energy going up during that time: there’s no way to blame ONLY energy costs for that.

It’s greed.

100% agree, businesses will charge as much as they can get away with

Monopoly capitalism will do that to you.

Okay I really don’t understand why this wouldn’t push for electrification?

Is it because the big machines they need is made by monopolies like John deer and they refuse to go electric?

Shouldn’t we be past the asking why phase and more into the solution phase.

Even if things are just gonna be expensive moving forward, the government subsidizes essentials that people need to survive. So even if corporates aren’t being greedy (they are) somethings gotta give, no?

Otherwise people will vote for PP or worse in a few years

But also remember that the cost of energy is nowhere near 100% of the cost of making pretty much anything.

If you doubled the cost of something because the price of a fraction of it doubled you’re absolutely a thief. That’s what these companies are doing; bad math to steal from stupid people*.

*Anyone can be a stupid person, including those with advanced engineering degrees. Hell, it’s almost more likely for them.

Why are groceries so expensive now…

Loblaw Reports 2024 Fourth Quarter Results And Fiscal Year Ended December 28, 2024 Results

BRAMPTON, ONTARIO February 20, 2025 Loblaw Companies Limited (TSX: L) (“Loblaw” or the “Company”) announced today its unaudited financial results for the fourth quarter ended December 28, 2024(1) and the release of its 2024 Annual Report. The 2024 Annual Report includes the Company’s audited financial statements and Management’s Discussion and Analysis (“MD&A”) for the fiscal year ended December 28, 2024.

(www.loblaw.ca)

I know what you mean by your wording so I’m not jumping on that, but it’s worth noting that like, eating isn’t a luxury or something that smart people do or rich people or dumb people or whatever. If you have a grocery store in a town/country and it’s the only store (or the vast plurality of realistic options that are all owned by the same company with different faces), you basically don’t have a choice but to submit to this weird “math”, no matter how smart or dumb you are.

It’s not about who’s buying the end product, it’s about who is supporting the people and politicians who use that flawed reasoning to get support.

“The carbon tax will mean that your food price will double” is a massive lie, and should be a major factor is disqualifying whoever says it as being someone to take seriously. Unfortunately, people hear that gas will have an added $0.114/L and believe that that will mean immediate financial ruin for everyone across the country. Politicians that support controlling the rampant greed of companies aren’t getting support while the thieves are and that’s fucked up.

Its usually always the money supply

Operational Details for Government Purchases of Canada Mortgage Bonds

In the 2023 Fall Economic Statement, the Canadian government announced its intention to purchase Canada Mortgage Bonds (CMBs), beginning in 2024, up to an annual maximum of $30 billion while ensuring that the pace and volume of these purchases are appropriate for market conditions.

(www.bankofcanada.ca)

Here they are buying half of all mortgage bonds.

Inelastic demand. It’s easier to charge more for something if people need it to survive.

There was a graph of food price vs what farmers got paid. Farmer goods prices have been almost flat in comparison to big chain food prices rising continually with a drastic spike for COVID onward

Part of the reason is likely that farming equipment is bloody expensive. A new combine harvester can cost nearly a million dollars, and there aren’t a hell of a lot of used electrical machines on the market yet. Each farm will have several machines that currently run on gas or diesel. How many can the average farmer afford to replace how fast?

I heard somewhere private equity firms are coming for our pets already, buying up tons of local and regional pet hospitals, dog and pet food suppliers, etc. Basically they know kids are increasingly unaffordable and so they need to capitalize on the fact more millennials are staying childless and treating their pet as their child.

If we had competition, the prices would get run down anyway by people trying to expand their market share.

If.

Canadian grocery stocks have been going up like absolute gangbusters lately.

That happened a decade ago. You can’t find many pet supplies anywhere anymore because one company owns the distributors and the stores – and they don’t give a shit because they’re American and Canada is too small of a market to support, so it’s left to wither and die.

The same with Veterinary services. They’ve all be bought up, made into chains, or signed bullshit distribution or service agreements by a single (American) company and now it costs many multiples what it used to for no reason except greed.