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Eggs Are Still Affordable in Canada. Thank Supply Management | The Walrus

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      reddig33@lemmy.world
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      Does Canada vaccinate their poultry against bird flu? A vaccine exists but a lot of farmers in the US won’t use it because they are afraid other countries won’t buy eggs from vaccinated livestock. It’s ridiculous.

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        Does Canada vaccinate their poultry against bird flu? A vaccine exists but a lot of farmers in the US won’t use it because they are afraid other countries won’t buy eggs from vaccinated livestock. It’s ridiculous.

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        Against some things, yes…but not against avian flu. Canada has a very rigorous system in place to identify, isolate and cull any infected animals before they can spread disease to the rest of the flock. You know…all the regulatory precautions the US is so reluctant to impose on their poultry industry, for the sake of saving money.

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          Does Canada vaccinate their poultry against bird flu? A vaccine exists but a lot of farmers in the US won’t use it because they are afraid other countries won’t buy eggs from vaccinated livestock. It’s ridiculous.

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          StinkyFingerItchyBum
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          We have strict biosecurity protocols that make poultry barns a sort of clean room. Vaccination isn’t required, nor desired.

          E.g. https://www.ontario.ca/page/biosecurity-recommendations-commercial-poultry-flocks-ontario

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            Against some things, yes…but not against avian flu. Canada has a very rigorous system in place to identify, isolate and cull any infected animals before they can spread disease to the rest of the flock. You know…all the regulatory precautions the US is so reluctant to impose on their poultry industry, for the sake of saving money.

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            eranziel@lemmy.world
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            It’s very worth noting that this kind of a system is actually much more cost efficient than vaccinating the birds. Vaccinating is very expensive when you consider the logistics of injecting the volume of birds we’re talking about. IIRC Canada consumes around a million chickens per week.

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              I love paying 20$ for a tiny block of cheese, it helps the poor buy chips and parbaked blobs of transfat laden dough from Tim Hortons instead. I actually with theyd dump out more milk food bank usage isn’t rising fast enough.

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                Aquafaba is good too for baking!

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                  Does Canada vaccinate their poultry against bird flu? A vaccine exists but a lot of farmers in the US won’t use it because they are afraid other countries won’t buy eggs from vaccinated livestock. It’s ridiculous.

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                  There’s now numbers showing that the bird flu, real as it is, did not result in a significant dip in egg production in the US. Egg producers increased prices on the news about the bird flu and kept increasing them while it was still going. Cal-Maine, the largest egg producer in the US made record profits during this period and still do. Their profit margin went from around 7% pre-pandemic to 25%.

                  So while disease protocols differ, that’s not what drove these price hikes. Instead it’s the same scheme various oligopolies have been pulling since the disruption of the pandemic. Some reasonably sounding cause for price increses circulates in the media, manufactures consent for price hikes with the public, price hikes occur, they keep going for as long as media provides cover, afterwards prices may stabilize at the higher level, people’s attention moves elsewhere.

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                    I love paying 20$ for a tiny block of cheese, it helps the poor buy chips and parbaked blobs of transfat laden dough from Tim Hortons instead. I actually with theyd dump out more milk food bank usage isn’t rising fast enough.

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                    knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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                    THE INTERNET EXISTS, WE CAN LOOK THINGS UP.

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                    Fucking $10 for a half a kilogram of Mozzarella. The good shit too! What the fuck cheese are you buying?!

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                      mountainbear49@programming.dev
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                      Canadian management of supply of agriculutral products, a.k.a monopolization of production permits, oligopoly, subsidization of already rich inherited fortunes of mostly colonial ‘white’ (beige, pale brown) men, harassment and incarceration of personal producers and of surplus resale to neighbors. Only 3 legal slaughterhouses of pigs for the entire province of Quebec, tens of hours of drive to get back a chicken and pig that may turn out being the product of another farmer… Something like 12 legal producers of eggs for the entire province of Quebec. Dependence on Mexican slave-like labor import for harvesting fruits and vegetables. $10/750ml of yogourt in 2025 CAD$ is far from affordable, that’s an incitation to food riot! Thank supply management for the increase of risks of riots for food!

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                        Does Canada vaccinate their poultry against bird flu? A vaccine exists but a lot of farmers in the US won’t use it because they are afraid other countries won’t buy eggs from vaccinated livestock. It’s ridiculous.

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                        Trade concerns and logistical challenges leave the U.S. lagging behind in bird flu vaccination efforts

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                        blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com
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                        Since nobody else is bothering to explain it, there’s a very good reason the avian flu vaccine is not used regularly in almost any country. The vaccine makes the chicken likely to survive the flu, but it does nothing to prevent infection. So instead of AF outbreaks being detected and the unfortunate birds culled, you would have entire farms incubating thousands of chickens full of AF virus, creating perfect conditions to mutate and potentially spawn a new strain which may wind up being resistant to the existing vaccine. Meanwhile, those infected chickens will be spreading AF to every wild bird for miles around. It’s not a useful tool for prevention, it’s our last ditch protection if AF gets completely out of control on a global scale.

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