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Why are Canada and Australia following the US to war?

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  • C cyborganism

    They’re not following the US to war. WTF kind of headline is this? It’s just practice, no?

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    arkouda@lemmy.ca
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    Whether left or right, they want you to believe their nonsense.

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    • C cyborganism

      They’re not following the US to war. WTF kind of headline is this? It’s just practice, no?

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      canconda@lemmy.ca
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      #4

      The author is focused on China-Canada stories. I’m willing to wager a 30-something polysci graduate doesn’t know much about military functionality.

      Considering we used to do joint military exercises with the USA… balking at Canadians training with Australia sounds suspiciously like something ‘Winnie The Pooh’ would say.

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      • C cyborganism

        They’re not following the US to war. WTF kind of headline is this? It’s just practice, no?

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        nightowl@lemmy.ca
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        Why do we need to “practice” in the South China Sea? How would we react if another country sailed their military up to the coast of BC?

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        • C canconda@lemmy.ca

          The author is focused on China-Canada stories. I’m willing to wager a 30-something polysci graduate doesn’t know much about military functionality.

          Considering we used to do joint military exercises with the USA… balking at Canadians training with Australia sounds suspiciously like something ‘Winnie The Pooh’ would say.

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          fireretardant@lemmy.world
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          They aren’t just joining Australia. USA, and 16 other countries are participating as well.

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          • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

            They aren’t just joining Australia. USA, and 16 other countries are participating as well.

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            canconda@lemmy.ca
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            Dunno why you got downvoted.

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            • C canconda@lemmy.ca

              Dunno why you got downvoted.

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              fireretardant@lemmy.world
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              Way she fucking goes

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              • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

                The CAF deployed 600 personnel, a warship, a maritime helicopter, and three warplanes to Australia on July 13 to participate in the Talisman Sabre war exercise, which will run until August 4. Talisman Sabre is a biennial, massive-scale joint military exercise seemingly designed to flex member countries’ military might against superpowers like the PRC as global tensions rise. Australia and the US have been running the Talisman Sabre exercise every other year since 2005, but this year’s is set to be the largest yet – representing a grand total of 19 countries and 35,000 personnel, running from July 13 to August 4.

                Such large-scale military operations as those on display under Talisman Sabre would constitute a gross and wholly avoidable escalation of current tensions in the South China Sea, as former Australian Ambassador to the Philippines and to South Korea, Mack Williams, wrote in 2017. The US’ FONOP program in the South China Sea has been systematically proven ineffective and even counter-productive, serving only to provoke Chinese hostility, precluding diplomatic engagement.

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                bluebadoo@lemmy.world
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                I know someone who has participated in Talisman Sabre as a CAF member and ultimately it is a signal to China that they cannot quietly absorb other countries like Taiwan without the rest of the world knowing or acting. It is a not an act of war, it is an act of assertion of rights and boundaries for other countries who we are allied with, along with useful training for our military.

                This is not a statement of right or wrong, just what one member has expressed to me as the purpose,

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                • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

                  Way she fucking goes

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                  arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                  That was my bad. I hit the wrong button… haha

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                  • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

                    The CAF deployed 600 personnel, a warship, a maritime helicopter, and three warplanes to Australia on July 13 to participate in the Talisman Sabre war exercise, which will run until August 4. Talisman Sabre is a biennial, massive-scale joint military exercise seemingly designed to flex member countries’ military might against superpowers like the PRC as global tensions rise. Australia and the US have been running the Talisman Sabre exercise every other year since 2005, but this year’s is set to be the largest yet – representing a grand total of 19 countries and 35,000 personnel, running from July 13 to August 4.

                    Such large-scale military operations as those on display under Talisman Sabre would constitute a gross and wholly avoidable escalation of current tensions in the South China Sea, as former Australian Ambassador to the Philippines and to South Korea, Mack Williams, wrote in 2017. The US’ FONOP program in the South China Sea has been systematically proven ineffective and even counter-productive, serving only to provoke Chinese hostility, precluding diplomatic engagement.

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                    mybrainhurts@lemmy.ca
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                    Me: I should read more alternative journalism.

                    Me, after reading several paragraphs of impressively foolish and ignorant writing: Allrighty, mainstream journalism, I was wrong and I apologize.

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                    • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

                      The CAF deployed 600 personnel, a warship, a maritime helicopter, and three warplanes to Australia on July 13 to participate in the Talisman Sabre war exercise, which will run until August 4. Talisman Sabre is a biennial, massive-scale joint military exercise seemingly designed to flex member countries’ military might against superpowers like the PRC as global tensions rise. Australia and the US have been running the Talisman Sabre exercise every other year since 2005, but this year’s is set to be the largest yet – representing a grand total of 19 countries and 35,000 personnel, running from July 13 to August 4.

                      Such large-scale military operations as those on display under Talisman Sabre would constitute a gross and wholly avoidable escalation of current tensions in the South China Sea, as former Australian Ambassador to the Philippines and to South Korea, Mack Williams, wrote in 2017. The US’ FONOP program in the South China Sea has been systematically proven ineffective and even counter-productive, serving only to provoke Chinese hostility, precluding diplomatic engagement.

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                      droopy4096@lemmy.ca
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                      China has aggressively acted towards neighbouring countries, redrawing borders and setting up for outright occupation. Assuming that now is not the time of military unity is reckless and dangerous. Yes we do have other problems we need to tackle but even if we do tackle them and not China expansionist politics we soon will find ourselves outgunned and with no allies. It’s a tough call but oversimplifying it down to “we don’t need to spend more on military” is very uninformed.

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                      • C canconda@lemmy.ca

                        Dunno why you got downvoted.

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                        lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                        First day on Reddit Lemmy?

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                        • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

                          Why do we need to “practice” in the South China Sea? How would we react if another country sailed their military up to the coast of BC?

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                          cyborganism
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                          Maybe if China wasn’t threatening the sovereignty of every nation in the area and being agressive against any other vessel, this wouldn’t be a big deal.

                          Maybe this exercise will cool their jets.

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                            First day on Reddit Lemmy?

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                            canconda@lemmy.ca
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                            No it just happened in the timeframe where it could be perceived that I downvoted them.

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                            • nightowl@lemmy.caN nightowl@lemmy.ca

                              The CAF deployed 600 personnel, a warship, a maritime helicopter, and three warplanes to Australia on July 13 to participate in the Talisman Sabre war exercise, which will run until August 4. Talisman Sabre is a biennial, massive-scale joint military exercise seemingly designed to flex member countries’ military might against superpowers like the PRC as global tensions rise. Australia and the US have been running the Talisman Sabre exercise every other year since 2005, but this year’s is set to be the largest yet – representing a grand total of 19 countries and 35,000 personnel, running from July 13 to August 4.

                              Such large-scale military operations as those on display under Talisman Sabre would constitute a gross and wholly avoidable escalation of current tensions in the South China Sea, as former Australian Ambassador to the Philippines and to South Korea, Mack Williams, wrote in 2017. The US’ FONOP program in the South China Sea has been systematically proven ineffective and even counter-productive, serving only to provoke Chinese hostility, precluding diplomatic engagement.

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                              ikidd@lemmy.world
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                              China keeps taking inches and miles in the South China Sea, and provokes other countries to the brink of war, but that’s all supposed to be ignored so China gets what it wants.

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                              • ikidd@lemmy.worldI ikidd@lemmy.world

                                China keeps taking inches and miles in the South China Sea, and provokes other countries to the brink of war, but that’s all supposed to be ignored so China gets what it wants.

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                                sagan_wept@lemmynsfw.com
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                                Alliance bad, China good

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                                  China keeps taking inches and miles in the South China Sea, and provokes other countries to the brink of war, but that’s all supposed to be ignored so China gets what it wants.

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                                  teppa
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                                  How many aircraft carriers and military bases does the US have?

                                  But I guess they are the good guys so its okay?

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                                    China keeps taking inches and miles in the South China Sea, and provokes other countries to the brink of war, but that’s all supposed to be ignored so China gets what it wants.

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                                    programmingsocks@pawb.social
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                                    • 51st state
                                    • Gulf of America
                                    • TARIFFS

                                    At least Xi isn’t a fucking buffoon.

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                                    • T teppa

                                      How many aircraft carriers and military bases does the US have?

                                      But I guess they are the good guys so its okay?

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                                      sturgist@lemmy.ca
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                                      Both China and the US can be terrible. It’s not mutually exclusive.

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