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A Maine politician sent Canadians an unprompted offer to join the US

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  • streetfestival@lemmy.caS streetfestival@lemmy.ca

    Brennan Day, who serves in British Columbia’s Legislative Assembly as a member of the Conservative Party, said he received Martin’s letter and was not sure how many other officials received it.

    “Honestly, I couldn’t believe it’s legitimate, but we reached out to [Martin’s] office,” Day told a Vancouver radio station. “It is a legitimate memo.”

    Martin, who served his first term in the Maine Senate this year and is retired from a career in the international mineral extraction industry, did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

    Day posted Aug. 6 to Facebook an open response to Martin’s letter that said it “reads like a recruitment brochure for a political ideology,” and Day told Martin “you are operating well outside of your lane sir, so allow me to operate well outside of mine.”

    Day took offense to several parts of Martin’s letter, including the Maine senator’s reference to “Canadian political baggage” and how the provinces becoming states would feature no “British monarchism, no bilingual federal documents [and] no imported bureaucracies.”

    If the provinces became U.S. states, Martin also wrote that for “millions of people currently frustrated by central authority, moral decay, and bureaucratic suffocation, that reward is liberty.”

    Day told Martin he holds “deep respect” for the U.S. and its citizens, but the Canadian lawmaker said the letter “lands more as a manifesto of arrogance.”

    “Your letter is a perfect example of what many Canadians find so deeply troubling about the American worldview — assuming that what works for you must be the solution for everyone else,” Day added.

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    formfiller@lemmy.world
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    #27

    Is that Temu Phil Donahue?

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    • T typhoon@lemmy.ca

      How could anyone look at what’s happening in the US right now and think “count me in!”?

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      corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      Someone go find Danielle Smith. She can leave any time, but she doesn’t get the land.

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      • F formfiller@lemmy.world

        Is that Temu Phil Donahue?

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        jaemo@sh.itjust.works
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        That, or Wish Captain Kangaroo.

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        • P pyroneurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          This could have been a gas, if he had a friendlier relation to the recipient and it wasn’t quite so measured. And if weren’t such a trying time politically.

          Basically if he’d hammed it up a bunch and worked both the timing and audience better, he coulda had something.

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          shawiniganhandshake@sh.itjust.works
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          #30

          An American politician joking about annexing Canada isn’t something we would ever find funny, no matter how it was timed. I don’t think you understand quite how seriously Canadians take American threats to our sovereignty, joking or otherwise.

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          • T typhoon@lemmy.ca

            How could anyone look at what’s happening in the US right now and think “count me in!”?

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            brax@sh.itjust.works
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            I dunno, conservative politicians have been shit on a global scale through pretty much all of history, and yet we still vote for them… So, in sure people wish we’d join that shithole, too. Then they’d probably bitch about how much worse life got and blame the Liberals or NDP for it.

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            • B bowreality@lemmy.ca

              I really liked Charlie Angus’ reply: https://youtu.be/9BptD9K1Bu4

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              sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca
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              I was awful entertained by Todd Maffin’s response.

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              • S shawiniganhandshake@sh.itjust.works

                An American politician joking about annexing Canada isn’t something we would ever find funny, no matter how it was timed. I don’t think you understand quite how seriously Canadians take American threats to our sovereignty, joking or otherwise.

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                sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca
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                #33

                I can’t think of a topic we find less funny. I think that Americans fundamentally understand that because they’re generally unaware of how many times they’ve already tried and failed. In US schools, Manifest Destiny is taught as a good thing. There’s not a lick of consideration for the people being manifested. It has all the comedy inherent in telling your buddy that you’re going to try to bang his wife.

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                • B brax@sh.itjust.works

                  I dunno, conservative politicians have been shit on a global scale through pretty much all of history, and yet we still vote for them… So, in sure people wish we’d join that shithole, too. Then they’d probably bitch about how much worse life got and blame the Liberals or NDP for it.

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                  lost_faith
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                  We (western provinces) won’t be allowed to keep our parties, any laws, or be called provinces. They will be us states with us politics. So ineffective dems or destructive repugnicans.

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                  • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

                    Hell no. People there elected this moron.

                    We don’t want any part of that.

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                    lost_faith
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                    I once thought that we could do well to take a few states, cali, d.c. (not a state i know), washington, etc. but then I noticed that there is too much rot even in “blue” states. leave em to their rot, we don’t want any state, even if we would require what that pos senator laid out

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                    • streetfestival@lemmy.caS streetfestival@lemmy.ca

                      Brennan Day, who serves in British Columbia’s Legislative Assembly as a member of the Conservative Party, said he received Martin’s letter and was not sure how many other officials received it.

                      “Honestly, I couldn’t believe it’s legitimate, but we reached out to [Martin’s] office,” Day told a Vancouver radio station. “It is a legitimate memo.”

                      Martin, who served his first term in the Maine Senate this year and is retired from a career in the international mineral extraction industry, did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

                      Day posted Aug. 6 to Facebook an open response to Martin’s letter that said it “reads like a recruitment brochure for a political ideology,” and Day told Martin “you are operating well outside of your lane sir, so allow me to operate well outside of mine.”

                      Day took offense to several parts of Martin’s letter, including the Maine senator’s reference to “Canadian political baggage” and how the provinces becoming states would feature no “British monarchism, no bilingual federal documents [and] no imported bureaucracies.”

                      If the provinces became U.S. states, Martin also wrote that for “millions of people currently frustrated by central authority, moral decay, and bureaucratic suffocation, that reward is liberty.”

                      Day told Martin he holds “deep respect” for the U.S. and its citizens, but the Canadian lawmaker said the letter “lands more as a manifesto of arrogance.”

                      “Your letter is a perfect example of what many Canadians find so deeply troubling about the American worldview — assuming that what works for you must be the solution for everyone else,” Day added.

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                      betanumerus@lemmy.ca
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                      #36

                      No bilingual federal documents? Did he also send that invitation to his neighbour Quebec?

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                      • T typhoon@lemmy.ca

                        How could anyone look at what’s happening in the US right now and think “count me in!”?

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                        yesbutactuallymaybe@lemmy.ca
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                        #37

                        I mean… Puerto Rico and Guam should be states if you ask me.

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                        • Y yesbutactuallymaybe@lemmy.ca

                          I mean… Puerto Rico and Guam should be states if you ask me.

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                          radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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                          This is what would happen to Canada. Canada would become a territory, with no voting rights, if they joined the US. Anyone who thinks Canada would be on equal footing with US states is living in a fantasy world.

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                            I once thought that we could do well to take a few states, cali, d.c. (not a state i know), washington, etc. but then I noticed that there is too much rot even in “blue” states. leave em to their rot, we don’t want any state, even if we would require what that pos senator laid out

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                            smayonak@lemmy.world
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                            The same propaganda networks that lead to 35% of California’s voters being republican are being promoted in canada. Facebook, am radio, Fox News, and now CBS, CNN, etc are being distributed in canada. You even had a guy who campaigned on a Maga platform running for pm. As long as the neoliberals allow those networks to keep spewing propaganda, canada is going to be next on the democratic chopping block.

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                              This is what would happen to Canada. Canada would become a territory, with no voting rights, if they joined the US. Anyone who thinks Canada would be on equal footing with US states is living in a fantasy world.

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                              lefantome@programming.dev
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                              They could never let Provinces join as states. For one thing, there would never be another republican President. For the four provinces he mentioned, there would be at least six more democratic senators with maybe two Republicans from Alberta. It would be even more lopsided in the house.

                              Even the most of the “conservative” voters in Canada would be democrats under the US system.

                              If you added the four provinces he mentioned to the US today, there would be an impeachment vote in the house that would be upheld in the Senate. No more Donald Trump.

                              And Saskatchewan is proud to be the birthplace of universal healthcare in Canada. How long would it be before their senators brought a bill to the floor proposing that for the US?

                              Was the guy who wrote this letter a Democrat? I mean, it is a helluva plan in some ways.

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                                The same propaganda networks that lead to 35% of California’s voters being republican are being promoted in canada. Facebook, am radio, Fox News, and now CBS, CNN, etc are being distributed in canada. You even had a guy who campaigned on a Maga platform running for pm. As long as the neoliberals allow those networks to keep spewing propaganda, canada is going to be next on the democratic chopping block.

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                                lost_faith
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                                Hopefully, with the stellar economic and trade situation in the us plus the military being deployed against citizens, they will finally see that conservatives are absolutely incompetent. Meanwhile I’ll be here turning blue from lack of oxygen.

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                                • streetfestival@lemmy.caS streetfestival@lemmy.ca

                                  Brennan Day, who serves in British Columbia’s Legislative Assembly as a member of the Conservative Party, said he received Martin’s letter and was not sure how many other officials received it.

                                  “Honestly, I couldn’t believe it’s legitimate, but we reached out to [Martin’s] office,” Day told a Vancouver radio station. “It is a legitimate memo.”

                                  Martin, who served his first term in the Maine Senate this year and is retired from a career in the international mineral extraction industry, did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

                                  Day posted Aug. 6 to Facebook an open response to Martin’s letter that said it “reads like a recruitment brochure for a political ideology,” and Day told Martin “you are operating well outside of your lane sir, so allow me to operate well outside of mine.”

                                  Day took offense to several parts of Martin’s letter, including the Maine senator’s reference to “Canadian political baggage” and how the provinces becoming states would feature no “British monarchism, no bilingual federal documents [and] no imported bureaucracies.”

                                  If the provinces became U.S. states, Martin also wrote that for “millions of people currently frustrated by central authority, moral decay, and bureaucratic suffocation, that reward is liberty.”

                                  Day told Martin he holds “deep respect” for the U.S. and its citizens, but the Canadian lawmaker said the letter “lands more as a manifesto of arrogance.”

                                  “Your letter is a perfect example of what many Canadians find so deeply troubling about the American worldview — assuming that what works for you must be the solution for everyone else,” Day added.

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                                  sixpaque@lemmy.ca
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                                  Your letter is a perfect example of what many Canadians find so deeply troubling about the American worldview; 'they do not have a clue what’s going on in their own country.

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                                    Hopefully, with the stellar economic and trade situation in the us plus the military being deployed against citizens, they will finally see that conservatives are absolutely incompetent. Meanwhile I’ll be here turning blue from lack of oxygen.

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                                    smayonak@lemmy.world
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                                    I am praying for that.

                                    But the neoliberals have been unwilling to move centre on any issue. And their market-based solutions do not allow for criminal penalties for promoting outright lies with clearly established harm to voters. I think the worst thing is that scum like poilievre want to do the reverse: destroy public media. The neolibs are the ones who forced public media to include corporate advertising. Which means they are only a half step away from the Maga party on public media. And both are very permissive to allowing propaganda to be disseminated on Canadian networks.

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