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The liberal just force the Flight Attendants to go back to work

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  • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

    As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

    If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

    Love & Rage

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    owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca
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    That’s very American of you, Liberals.

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    • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

      I am utterly gutted at Carney’s leadership. He’s followed the Liberal old guard’s mandate the same way Trudeau did, and we’re all paying the price for that.

      I truly believed he would be tough enough to do the right thing and so far he’s done just the opposite.

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      floofloof@lemmy.ca
      wrote on last edited by floofloof@lemmy.ca
      #9

      His campaign was basically a trick. We dodged Poilievre’s clueless reactionary Trumpism-lite, but got conservatism by other means. Corporate-friendly centrist liberals who don’t deliver for the people will never stave off fascism for long. Canada and the UK are both in this position right now. We need electoral reform that would allow smaller parties to get a foothold and prove themselves. Under current conditions the first-past-the-post system seems to guarantee a slow drift into the jaws of the far right.

      The Liberals will never give us electoral reform though, and the smaller parties are now too small to be able to force their hand. If the NDP can remember to be a left party and find a leader with broad appeal, then maybe things could be different for the election after the next one.

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      • P Polkira

        Honestly because of his leadership, my future votes will be going towards NDP or Greens. The Liberals have lost my vote forever. I voted Liberal to avoid a Conservative government and I feel like I ended up with one anyways.

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        hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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        I grew up in Saskatchewan during a time when almost everyone automatically voted NDP … much of that because of Tommy Douglas’ and the CCF/NDP legacy.

        For years now I’ve mostly voted strategically, except for the rare times I’ve voted my choice. But this utter betrayal by the Liberals has burned that bridge.

        It’s NDP every time from now on.

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        • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

          As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

          If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

          Love & Rage

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          NoneOfUrBusiness
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          #11

          This is probably much harder than I’m making it sound, but y’all should be giving the Liberals hell for this shit. The road to fascism is paved with liberal betrayal of the working class.

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          • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

            His campaign was basically a trick. We dodged Poilievre’s clueless reactionary Trumpism-lite, but got conservatism by other means. Corporate-friendly centrist liberals who don’t deliver for the people will never stave off fascism for long. Canada and the UK are both in this position right now. We need electoral reform that would allow smaller parties to get a foothold and prove themselves. Under current conditions the first-past-the-post system seems to guarantee a slow drift into the jaws of the far right.

            The Liberals will never give us electoral reform though, and the smaller parties are now too small to be able to force their hand. If the NDP can remember to be a left party and find a leader with broad appeal, then maybe things could be different for the election after the next one.

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            cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
            wrote on last edited by cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
            #12

            The true opposition does not wear convenient colors and wave flags, the opposition is the people with power and money. Our opposition is not stupid. They played us well and make it feel like our fault. Democracy doesn’t matter when they only allow two choices and they control both choices.

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            • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

              As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

              If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

              Love & Rage

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              ArxCyberwolf
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              #13

              Of course they did. Fucking corporate pricks.

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              • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                His campaign was basically a trick. We dodged Poilievre’s clueless reactionary Trumpism-lite, but got conservatism by other means. Corporate-friendly centrist liberals who don’t deliver for the people will never stave off fascism for long. Canada and the UK are both in this position right now. We need electoral reform that would allow smaller parties to get a foothold and prove themselves. Under current conditions the first-past-the-post system seems to guarantee a slow drift into the jaws of the far right.

                The Liberals will never give us electoral reform though, and the smaller parties are now too small to be able to force their hand. If the NDP can remember to be a left party and find a leader with broad appeal, then maybe things could be different for the election after the next one.

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                justOnePersistentKbinPlease
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                #14

                Recall that Jagmeet “Singh” was actually from the upper crust of Indian social structure. His actual family name is Dhaliwal.

                He was never on our side.

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                • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

                  As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

                  If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

                  Love & Rage

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                  typhoon@lemmy.ca
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                  #15

                  The right to collectively bargain and strike was fought with blood. Allowing unions was the better alternative to blood. Now they seem to be forgetting that.

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                  • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                    I grew up in Saskatchewan during a time when almost everyone automatically voted NDP … much of that because of Tommy Douglas’ and the CCF/NDP legacy.

                    For years now I’ve mostly voted strategically, except for the rare times I’ve voted my choice. But this utter betrayal by the Liberals has burned that bridge.

                    It’s NDP every time from now on.

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                    Avid Amoeba
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                    #16

                    Do you know why the CCF fell out of favour? Tommy Douglas had a really long tenure so he must have done well. What did him in? If you know. 😊

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                    • N NoneOfUrBusiness

                      This is probably much harder than I’m making it sound, but y’all should be giving the Liberals hell for this shit. The road to fascism is paved with liberal betrayal of the working class.

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                      sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      We had to vote for the neoliberals so that the ultraconservatives did not get elected. We are not in a good place 😭

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                      • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

                        As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

                        If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

                        Love & Rage

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                        PlzGivHugs
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                        #18

                        At this point, the Liberals have bowed to Trump (and got nothing for it), made largely symbolic genstures to limit immigrantion blocking primary those who are paying to be here while ignoring the workers we effectively enslave with the TFW program, done nothing about housing, and has blocked unions. At this point, might have well voted for Polieve (or, you know, someone sane).

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                        • P PlzGivHugs

                          At this point, the Liberals have bowed to Trump (and got nothing for it), made largely symbolic genstures to limit immigrantion blocking primary those who are paying to be here while ignoring the workers we effectively enslave with the TFW program, done nothing about housing, and has blocked unions. At this point, might have well voted for Polieve (or, you know, someone sane).

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                          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                          #19

                          We still have the CBC, for one thing. Poilievre would be worse.

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                          • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

                            As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

                            If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

                            Love & Rage

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                            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                            #20

                            I have to think that if they keep doing this every time there’s a major strike coming, the courts are going to rule against the current labour relations laws entirely. The right to strike is in the Charter.

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                            • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                              We still have the CBC, for one thing. Poilievre would be worse.

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                              arachnidmania@lemmy.ca
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                              CBC just got a big reduction in funding. Similar to PP promises

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                              • A arachnidmania@lemmy.ca

                                CBC just got a big reduction in funding. Similar to PP promises

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                                canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                No, he was going to stop funding it entirely. Shutting it down has been his life’s quest. He also has an actual affinity for Trump rather than just a strategic interest in not making him angry.

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                                • P PlzGivHugs

                                  At this point, the Liberals have bowed to Trump (and got nothing for it), made largely symbolic genstures to limit immigrantion blocking primary those who are paying to be here while ignoring the workers we effectively enslave with the TFW program, done nothing about housing, and has blocked unions. At this point, might have well voted for Polieve (or, you know, someone sane).

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                                  ikidd@lemmy.world
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                                  You forgot the nightmare surveillance bill they’re ramming through.

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                                  • T tribblesbestfriend@startrek.website

                                    As a shocking move (not) the liberal government side with AirCanada patrons and forced the flight attendants union to go in legal arbitration (right word ?)

                                    If you liked spammed your social with photo of Patricia Hadjy and PM Carney with the #UnpaidWorkWontfly

                                    Love & Rage

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                                    rxbudian@lemmy.ca
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                                    The flight attendants should just wait in the plane for the passengers to board…

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                                    • R rxbudian@lemmy.ca

                                      The flight attendants should just wait in the plane for the passengers to board…

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                                      tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                      or wait til they board, and then ditch them there.

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                                      • P PlzGivHugs

                                        At this point, the Liberals have bowed to Trump (and got nothing for it), made largely symbolic genstures to limit immigrantion blocking primary those who are paying to be here while ignoring the workers we effectively enslave with the TFW program, done nothing about housing, and has blocked unions. At this point, might have well voted for Polieve (or, you know, someone sane).

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                                        mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                                        #26

                                        Yeah! It’s all the liberals fault!

                                        We get liberals in office and… Why are you not doing enough?

                                        And when they’re not in office, why aren’t you doing anything?!

                                        The two party system is just sandwiching we, the people, between two rotting pieces of shit soaked bread. No matter who “wins” the election, we, the people, always fucking lose. That’s the way of things. The government doesn’t represent you and I, they’re there to make the lives of businesses easier. So we’re going to get roflstomped either way.

                                        I will say that one party seems to stink a whole lot less than the other.

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                                        • S sik0fewl@lemmy.ca

                                          We had to vote for the neoliberals so that the ultraconservatives did not get elected. We are not in a good place 😭

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                                          mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca
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                                          #27

                                          We probably won’t get a more moderate choice anytime soon. As long as strategic voting and first past the post are the norm.

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