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Why do Canadians online seem to hate Tim Hortons?

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  • C cocaineshrimp@sh.itjust.works

    To reiterate other points in the thread: they used to be pretty good and Canadian.

    But in 2014, they were bought out by Burger King and the quality absolutely plummeted. Their coffee supplier went to McDonalds, and all the baked goods are now frozen rather than fresh; making them stale

    They’ve cut enough corners that the brand is now associated with low tier trash. But because they used to be Canadian, and still try to market themselves as Canadian, it’s become offensive. This is not what Canadians want to associate themselves with anymore

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    garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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    I agree with most of your points, but the quality went down wayyy before 2014. My mom worked there in the early 2000s when everything was made in house. By the time I started my first job there in 2008/2009, absolutely nothing was made in house. Around 2010/2011 is when they got rid of the last semi fresh item - the muffins would be made with frozen dough, but they switched to bringing in fully baked frozen muffins that go in a high powered microwave (essentially) for about 3 minutes.

    The coffee swap was definitely the last straw though. Their new coffee is worse than garbage.

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    • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

      There’s literally Tim Horton’s in the Middle East

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      grte@lemmy.ca
      wrote on last edited by grte@lemmy.ca
      #54

      I wouldn’t care about this at all if either A) It was a Canadian company that made good coffee/food and actually represented us well.

      Or

      B) Took that maple leaf off their stand. There is nothing Canadian in this picture to be putting the maple leaf on.

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      • 3 3rr4tt1c

        Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

        Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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        Papamousse
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        Well, I cannot write it better than all the comments here… Yes it was good 25 years ago, but selling it to BK, changing coffee beans (they used to be good, years ago they changed it, because of price I guess, and the new one is disgusting. McDo switched to the old TH beans AFAIK this is why the McDo coffee is good), having donuts came frozen and just heating them, capitalism, etc.

        In the last 20 years I went to TH less than 10 times.

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          Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

          Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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          andre613@lemmy.ca
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          Tim’s is about as Canadian as Donald Trump nowadays…

          Sold out to a Brazilian mega-corp (Brazil has the some of the worst coffee on the planet). Cut everything down to the bone in terms of quality of product and quality of service to maximise profits, and is just coasting on nostalgia and the good will it built back when it actually WAS good (1990’s… Damn, I miss those cherry sticks!)

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          • ArxCyberwolfS ArxCyberwolf

            They’re not Canadian anymore, they’re not fresh, and the crap they serve is a shallow imitation of what they once were. The business that was started by Tim Horton himself died long ago, another victim of multinational corporations that fuck everything up in the name of profit.

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            lobut@lemmy.ca
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            They need to cut off quality to afford to give their execs more money.

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            • 3 3rr4tt1c

              Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

              Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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              reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca
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              It used to smell like fresh baked bread and fresh ground coffee when you walked in.

              Their pastries, donuts and buns were fresh baked in house. It was an experience to see a tray of steaming bread rolls coming out of the back while you were waiting for your order.

              They switched their ethically sourced coffee bean supplier back when they sold out. If I remember correctly, McDonalds then swooped in and took over the supply contracts, so suddenly McDs had the superior coffee (in my opinion).

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              • A al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com

                When was it good? 2005?

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                glibg@lemmy.ca
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                It was better then, yes. They still operated as a bakery at that point.

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                • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

                  2005 was when they went public. That’s when the enshittification started. It all started when they went central with their bakeries and pulled all the baking from in house. Then the prices started going up. 25 cents per fiscal year, almost to the calendar date. Then shit started getting smaller. Less staff. The bagel toasters suddenly sped up a whole lot.

                  Fast forward to like say 2015, they were probably the biggest users of the TFW plan. Didn’t train anyone properly. Couldn’t keep staff. The toasters went so fast the bagels pretty much shot like a torpedo out of the toaster when someone put one down. Food was never warm. Lids leaked like hell, and no one would do anything about it.

                  Used to be a multiple times a day tim visitor. Best thing that ever happened to me was when they went to shit. It correlates directly with better health, better financial health and habits and it removed what was pretty much an addiction. I haven’t even been inside one since COVID.

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                  al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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                  That’s when I tried it and was also impressed I must have just missed the good times like always lol.

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                  • G glibg@lemmy.ca

                    It was better then, yes. They still operated as a bakery at that point.

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                    al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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                    #61

                    I was not impressed.

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                    • A andre613@lemmy.ca

                      Tim’s is about as Canadian as Donald Trump nowadays…

                      Sold out to a Brazilian mega-corp (Brazil has the some of the worst coffee on the planet). Cut everything down to the bone in terms of quality of product and quality of service to maximise profits, and is just coasting on nostalgia and the good will it built back when it actually WAS good (1990’s… Damn, I miss those cherry sticks!)

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                      Victor Villas
                      wrote on last edited by villasv@lemmy.ca
                      #62

                      Brazil has the some of the worst coffee on the planet

                      Brazil is the biggest coffee producer, so it’s both the biggest source of shit cheap coffee and also a big source of very good expensive coffee. Guess which one is picked as supplier for most chain stores?

                      If you get Brazilian beans from a local roaster, it’s pretty damn good. But it’s microlot so obviously expensive.

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                      • 3 3rr4tt1c

                        Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                        Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                        bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                        Because its garbage. Decades back they had good coffee, fresh in store baked donuts, and good deals. Now is bland coffee, trucked in food that is garbage, and expensive. Nothing good about it anymore.

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                        • C cocaineshrimp@sh.itjust.works

                          Before it was bought by Burger King in 2014

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                          al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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                          Lol interesting user name.

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                          • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                            Because its garbage. Decades back they had good coffee, fresh in store baked donuts, and good deals. Now is bland coffee, trucked in food that is garbage, and expensive. Nothing good about it anymore.

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                            phx@lemmy.ca
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                            And it pretends at being a Canadian staple when in reality it hasn’t been Canadian in ages

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                              Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                              Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                              Nik282000
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                              Because it’s terrible. The food is terrible, they treat their employees terribly, the employees are understandably terrible themselves and the whole thing is shoved down our throats as 🍁 CANADIAN 🍁

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                              • G glibg@lemmy.ca

                                It was better then, yes. They still operated as a bakery at that point.

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                                kichae@lemmy.ca
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                                They started centralizing the baked goods production in the 90s, after Wendy’s bought them.

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                                  Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                                  Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                                  BurgerBaron
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                                  Shit stale food for too much money. There’s still 12+ car long drive-thru lines every morning.

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                                  • 3 3rr4tt1c

                                    Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                                    Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                                    canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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                                    Because Timmies used to be a gold standard, then it was sold to foreign interests, the doughnuts were no longer made locally, the quality of the coffee dropped, and they started chasing trends

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                                    • 3 3rr4tt1c

                                      Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                                      Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                                      washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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                                      Enshitification.

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                                      • K kichae@lemmy.ca

                                        They started centralizing the baked goods production in the 90s, after Wendy’s bought them.

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                                        glibg@lemmy.ca
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                                        Hm I did not know that. The one I went to most frequently definitely still had a bakery, as a guy I knew had a bakery job there that would start in the ungodly early morning hours.

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                                          Maybe I’m just too chronically online, but people seem to complain a lot more about Tim Hortons than other fast food places. Even though they have a lot of the same issues.

                                          Edit: I guess I have bad taste in fast food. I like Tims 🤷‍♀️. I think the prices are reasonable for fast food, and their stuff tastes better than mcDonalds. I don’t drink coffee much so I can’t compare to other places. I can get why people don’t like the company itself though.

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                                          programmingsocks@pawb.social
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                                          Because it’s just not very good anymore. Their coffee is acceptable again, but their donuts are mediocre, and most of their food is just okay. I still like the breakfast sandwiches, though. And Timmies really tried to make their identity about how Canadian they are and that is not true at all anymore, so Canadians feel a little betrayed too. (This is not about their employees, but rather the fact that it they are now owned by an foreign private equity firm.)

                                          The TFW thing is quite bad IMO, but specifically because they are exploiting those workers to an even greater degree by holding continued employment (and thus presence in Canada) over their heads.

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