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Project 2025 mastermind invited to speak at Carney's cabinet meeting

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  • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

    Damn, glad he distanced himself, wouldn’t want them to think Donny has bad friends.

    Wtf are you even saying? Lol.

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    patatas@sh.itjust.works
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    When asked during the campaign if Project 2025 was his agenda, Trump said he had never heard of it. This was widely reported, so I’m not sure why you’re confused about what I wrote

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    • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

      The next person that says “strategic voting” within earshot is getting knocked out, I swear to god. This is so beyond the pale

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      soup@lemmy.world
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      #32

      Amen.

      Never a good reason, it only delays bad shit until it’s even worse and cripples the opposition you wanted all along. Strategic voting is dogshit in every way.

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      • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

        When asked during the campaign if Project 2025 was his agenda, Trump said he had never heard of it. This was widely reported, so I’m not sure why you’re confused about what I wrote

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        bdot@lemmy.world
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        there’s two things that EVERYONE should be able to recognize about Trump, but really just boils down to one simple fact : he always says the opposite of what is true.

        • when he says “nobody knows more about this than me,” what he REALLY means is “i am completely clueless about this subject”

        • when he says “never heard of it,” he is VERY involved.

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        • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

          Capitulation Carney.

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          lost_faith
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          When I first said this about him I was hoping he was just playing the long game, getting less and less sure

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            grte@lemmy.ca
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            #35

            The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) said Roberts is speaking to cabinet about trade issues because he knows the Trump administration’s playbook.

            And what exactly is this guy’s motivation to share that information with us? Just out of the kindness of his heart? The guy quoted in this very article as saying the US was in the midst of a,

            “second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

            Yeah, that’s a stand up guy who I definitely trust to tell me the truth. Come the fuck on.

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              asg101@lemmy.ca
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              Capitulating Capitalist Carney will always put monied interests above those of the people. Once a banker, always a banker.

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              • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”. Carney has a long and distinguished career in finance and politics. He is in complete control with whom he meets. Carney is buying time and setting up alternate trade outside of USSA. This takes time.

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                hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                USSA 🤔

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                • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                  They need time. Canada IS setting up trade with other nations. It’s not going to happen overnight…

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                  canconda@lemmy.ca
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                  Our exports dropped 19% in Q2 this year. Diversifying 1/5th of our trade will take long enough that the responsible thing to do is salvage what trade we can from the USA in the interim.

                  There’s a world of difference between buyCanadian and wefuckingneedourexportsguys.

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                  • H hikingvet@lemmy.ca

                    USSA 🤔

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                    ganryuu@lemmy.ca
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                    #39

                    Union of Soviet Socialist Americas?

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                    • G ganryuu@lemmy.ca

                      Union of Soviet Socialist Americas?

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                      hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                      Yeah which is weird because they are the turd Reich

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                      • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                        “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”. Carney has a long and distinguished career in finance and politics. He is in complete control with whom he meets. Carney is buying time and setting up alternate trade outside of USSA. This takes time.

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                        canconda@lemmy.ca
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                        #41

                        He’s in complete control of who he meets, but the way the article headline is framing it is irresponsible IMO.

                        As you said, Carney is setting up alternative trade partners. I’d assume part of his diversification strategy is to identify what aspects of trade specifically we need to divert away from the US due to Trump.

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                        • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                          When asked during the campaign if Project 2025 was his agenda, Trump said he had never heard of it. This was widely reported, so I’m not sure why you’re confused about what I wrote

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                          randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                          Oh damn. You’re right. That’s what known liar, felon and rapist said. How could anyone doubt him?

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                            softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                            Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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                              Guy Ingonito
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                              “The best thing you can do is capitulate, it’ll totally work against the bully President this time”

                              There, that’s what his speech will be.

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                              • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                                The next person that says “strategic voting” within earshot is getting knocked out, I swear to god. This is so beyond the pale

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                                canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                #45

                                Strategic voting.

                                Whatever alternative you’re thinking of is unworkable. Nor am I convinced any other party would do something different, given our vulnerable position, except to maybe genuinely entertain further integration.

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                                • Guy IngonitoK Guy Ingonito

                                  “The best thing you can do is capitulate, it’ll totally work against the bully President this time”

                                  There, that’s what his speech will be.

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                                  canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                  #46

                                  And hopefully they nod and smile, and he goes back and reports they’ve contained us so we can buy some more time.

                                  Everyone’s getting their pitchforks out, but I’d be doing the exact same thing as PM right now.

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                                  • W wirebeads@lemmy.ca

                                    If Carney fucks us, I’m going to be rightly fucking pissed.

                                    If this is a meeting for discovery, OK. If this is a meeting to engage them more, fuck off.

                                    This closed door meeting better have some public relay once it’s over a good solid cabinet member can leak the details.

                                    This does not sit well with me.

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                                    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                    He’s probably meeting them as flattery.

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                                    • A anachronist@midwest.social

                                      Yeah the guy who ran on opposing Trump and supporting workers who immediately folded to Trump and ratfucked the flight attendants definitely deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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                                      canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                      Folding would be a move towards actually becoming the 51st state. He’s given a few token concessions.

                                      Probably just to buy time. I’d be doing the same in his shoes, anyway.

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                                      • P patatas@sh.itjust.works

                                        Oh, and I suppose the enemy is going to give you good info?

                                        This is nonsense. You don’t sit down with fascists. Easiest rule. This is unconscionable.

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                                        nyan@lemmy.cafe
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                                        Of course you don’t take anything they say at face value, but keeping track of what they emphasise, what they downplay, and how that changes over time can give you some notion of where their weak points are. Don’t listen to what they’re saying, listen to what they’re trying to hide.

                                        In the end, though, what we want is to keep the Americans talking, rather than shooting at us. Each diplomatic conversation buys time until they either course-correct or collapse into civil war. And if that requires some MPs to sit through a dramatic reading of Trump partisan trash while not visibly rolling their eyes, well, they’re being paid well enough for it. There’s a big difference between keeping someone talking and letting yourself be persuaded by them. (People like Danielle Smith don’t need to be persuaded over to the evil side—they were on that side from the get-go.)

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                                        • O olivemoon@lemmy.ca

                                          Geezus. Why do you immediately think the worst? Maybe Carney wants to put this BS to bed. Is it so hard to believe he’s not in cahoots?

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                                          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                          Have you seen the border security bill?

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