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Irish rappers Kneecap barred from entering Canada: 'Dangerous endorsements of violence and hate'

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  • S snoons@lemmy.ca

    To be even more fair; you’re directly quoting misinformation released by the Canadian government in support of Israel and their mass murder of Palestinian people (aka, genocide). This misinformation is a result of “Jewish” groups, which recently have shown themselves as basically being lapdogs for the Israeli state.

    Kneecap aren’t anti-semetic, they are anti-Israel and as much as Israeli fascists want it to be; being against the Israeli state is not the the same as being against Jews.

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    cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    Is this video misinformation? https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ie5qs

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    • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

      I don’t think you can take a single live artististic performance as “being on the record for endorsing” anything.

      Eminem wasn’t endorsing everything in his lyrics.

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      cygnus@lemmy.ca
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      • B barbatruc@sh.itjust.works

        Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier. Canada certainly is not in a historical posture to pitch in on how to resist genocide.

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        dwazaal@lemmy.world
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        #31

        Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier

        Hezbollah actively supported the Syrian military occupation of Lebanon. A brutal occupation that lasted longer than the Israeli occupation. Hezbollah killed many Lebanese political figures including the most famous one, Rafik Hariri.

        To defend Bachar El Assad, they slaughtered sunnis across Syria.

        The judge investigating the Beirut Port Explosion ? He receive death threats from Hezbollah.

        Let’s not white wash their bloody crimes.

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          masterspace@lemmy.ca
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          Yes, like I said.

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            Yes, like I said.

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            cygnus@lemmy.ca
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            Me, an intellectual, looking at a guy wearing a Hezbollah flag and saying up Hamas, up Hezbollah: “actually that doesn’t prove he likes Hezbollah”

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            • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

              Me, an intellectual, looking at a guy wearing a Hezbollah flag and saying up Hamas, up Hezbollah: “actually that doesn’t prove he likes Hezbollah”

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              relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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              The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
              “We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

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                The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
                “We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

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                cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                  I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                  Jo Cox family says Kneecap offering ‘half an apology’ over alleged call to kill MPs

                  Husband of murdered Labour MP says Belfast rappers’ talk of being unfairly targeted undermines their statement

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                  The group offered an apology to the families of murdered MPs Jo Cox and David Amess.

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                    relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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                    #37

                    A festival was held in Toronto about a month ago in support of Israel, wow crazy that Canada approved such a dangerous endorsement of violence and hate.
                    No problem with publicly supporting perpetrators of a genocide, right?
                    https://www.jewishtoronto.com/the-sounds-of-israel

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                    • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                      I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                      masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                      It’s really easy to reconcile that with the video. It’s called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don’t entirely mean or haven’t entirely thought through.

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                      • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                        It’s really easy to reconcile that with the video. It’s called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don’t entirely mean or haven’t entirely thought through.

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                        cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                        #39

                        This seems a foreign concept to many folks here and elsewhere online, but somehow I’ve managed to be horrified by Israel’s genocide and want to end it, without ever thinking “you know what, the literal terrorists on the other side are good actually, death to Israel and all Jews”.

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                          bcboy911@lemmy.ca
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                          I’m done with Carney man, this shit is so ass.

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                          • V Concetta

                            We banned Eminem at his peak, we’re dumb as fuckin rocks on these subjects.

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                            savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                            And Jello Biafra.

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                            • Z zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca

                              Wtf canada

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                              hotshot@lemmy.zip
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                              And yet the US still treats them like a side piece

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                              • SunshineS Sunshine

                                Hamas and Hezbollah are OK?

                                Where did I say this?

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                                khar21@lemmy.ca
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                                Ofcourse you go silent as soon as someone directly asks if you support October 7th… Coward.

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                                  Ofcourse you go silent as soon as someone directly asks if you support October 7th… Coward.

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                                  Sunshine
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                                  Yet you ignore how 65k Palestinians were murdered by the IDF. How pathetic to throw insults.

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                                  • V Concetta

                                    We banned Eminem at his peak, we’re dumb as fuckin rocks on these subjects.

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                                    circav@lemmy.ca
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                                    The Barenaked Ladies were banned FFS 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦🏽

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                                    • SunshineS Sunshine

                                      Yet you ignore how 65k Palestinians were murdered by the IDF. How pathetic to throw insults.

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                                      khar21@lemmy.ca
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                                      #46

                                      Talk about deflection and straw manning. You still haven’t answered the question.

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                                      • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                                        This seems a foreign concept to many folks here and elsewhere online, but somehow I’ve managed to be horrified by Israel’s genocide and want to end it, without ever thinking “you know what, the literal terrorists on the other side are good actually, death to Israel and all Jews”.

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                                        masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                                        #47

                                        Oh wow! I’m so glad to hear that! We all care sooo much about your personal experience with anger!

                                        Thank God the way that you get angry and emotional, is the exact same way that everyone else does, in every single situation!

                                        Whew, for a second there I thought we might have to use the power of remembering times when we were extremely angry and said things we didn’t mean, and try and combine that with empathy to apply it to the current situation, but thank God we don’t because /u/Cyrus here has explained that he’s never said anything he didn’t mean out of anger. So obviously everyone else must be the same in every situation.

                                        Thank you cyrus, we all believe your words sooo much, and definitely don’t just think you’re a brain dead dumbass.

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                                        • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                                          Oh wow! I’m so glad to hear that! We all care sooo much about your personal experience with anger!

                                          Thank God the way that you get angry and emotional, is the exact same way that everyone else does, in every single situation!

                                          Whew, for a second there I thought we might have to use the power of remembering times when we were extremely angry and said things we didn’t mean, and try and combine that with empathy to apply it to the current situation, but thank God we don’t because /u/Cyrus here has explained that he’s never said anything he didn’t mean out of anger. So obviously everyone else must be the same in every situation.

                                          Thank you cyrus, we all believe your words sooo much, and definitely don’t just think you’re a brain dead dumbass.

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                                          cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                                          FYI what you’re advocating and defending here is textbook abuser behaviour, so rather than belittling others you may want to get counseling.

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