Skip to content
0
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Sketchy)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Wandering Adventure Party

  1. Home
  2. Canada
  3. Canada’s tariff wall on Chinese electric vehicles is deepening dependence on the U.S.

Canada’s tariff wall on Chinese electric vehicles is deepening dependence on the U.S.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Canada
canada
104 Posts 30 Posters 2 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J joshuafalken@lemmy.world

    There’s no malice here. I wasn’t saying you specifically should be making smaller and more frequent stops at the grocery. I was only meaning that’s how it’s done when not getting such a large quantity of food at once.

    Your example of picking up a friend is perfectly valid. That takes a more specific bike set up than something standard with a rack on the back - at least to do comfortably. Beyond teenage years, I don’t see people doubling up on handlebars anymore. That said, there are many ‘off the shelf’ solutions available for transporting both a shopping trolley worth of groceries and an additional person across a city. Saying something is ‘impossible’ is a little short sighted.

    I’m sure driving about works just fine for your lifestyle specifically. For myself, it takes longer to drive across my city than to ride to the same destination. I wasn’t trying to talk you into trading your car for a bike. I was only making a suggestion about the most common trip people take in case you hadn’t thought of it.

    I don’t mean this rudely, but it’s not as though you and I know one another personally. I have no vested interest in what you do. I was just chiming in to share an alternative perspective. After all, isn’t variety is the spice of life?

    Cheers

    FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
    FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
    FaceDeer
    wrote on last edited by
    #95

    I wasn’t saying you specifically should be making smaller and more frequent stops at the grocery.

    You said exactly that. You also said I was being disingenuous.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • Nik282000N Nik282000

      Have you looked at the privacy violation that is north american vehicles?

      V This user is from outside of this forum
      V This user is from outside of this forum
      voluble@lemmy.ca
      wrote on last edited by
      #96

      Chinese EVs are very bad for Canadian national security. China cannot be trusted and is actively antagonistic to Canadian interests. The fact that any Canadian would want Chinese EVs on our streets and in our garages is a complete mystery to me.

      Nik282000N 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J jhex@lemmy.world

        did not know that was possible

        A This user is from outside of this forum
        A This user is from outside of this forum
        arkouda@lemmy.ca
        wrote on last edited by
        #97

        Honestly a massive game changer if one uses a bike for transportation.

        J 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • J This user is from outside of this forum
          J This user is from outside of this forum
          joshuafalken@lemmy.world
          wrote on last edited by
          #98

          I see why my comment gave that impression. When I wrote:

          But when living within a stone’s throw of the most commonly visited store, you just go every few days instead of twice a month.

          I wasn’t using ‘you’ in the specific, I was using it in the general sense. I should have written “one just goes”. That would’ve made my meaning more clear. If I had said it verbally it would have been obvious by inflection, though text is so often a poor analog for speech.

          Anyway, insofar as the disingenuity, yes. Making a straw man argument is disingenuous. Talking specifically about grocery trips then shoehorning in every other errand under the sun isn’t a good faith argument.

          Regardless, it’s good of you to give a lift to friends to go meet the group. One less car on the road contributing to traffic congestion.

          FaceDeerF 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • J joshuafalken@lemmy.world

            I see why my comment gave that impression. When I wrote:

            But when living within a stone’s throw of the most commonly visited store, you just go every few days instead of twice a month.

            I wasn’t using ‘you’ in the specific, I was using it in the general sense. I should have written “one just goes”. That would’ve made my meaning more clear. If I had said it verbally it would have been obvious by inflection, though text is so often a poor analog for speech.

            Anyway, insofar as the disingenuity, yes. Making a straw man argument is disingenuous. Talking specifically about grocery trips then shoehorning in every other errand under the sun isn’t a good faith argument.

            Regardless, it’s good of you to give a lift to friends to go meet the group. One less car on the road contributing to traffic congestion.

            FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
            FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
            FaceDeer
            wrote on last edited by
            #99

            Talking specifically about grocery trips then shoehorning in every other errand under the sun isn’t a good faith argument.

            And as I’ve said in other comments, going to the grocery store isn’t the only thing I do in my life. Not everything is about the exact circumstances of how I keep the pantry stocked. I do a lot of things with my time so every use of that time is a tradeoff against those other things. If it takes an extra hour each week to shop for groceries, that’s an hour I don’t get to spend on other things that I value. I’m not a grocery-shopping robot designed only for grocery shopping.

            I’d buy one of those if they were available, frankly, and thus save even more of my personal time to do things I consider more important. And then people would complain at me even more about the resources I was “wasting.” But they’re my resources and at a certain point having people telling me I’m bad and wrong for how I use them gets offensive.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • L lefantome@programming.dev

              Yeah, good job at not-debating.

              He did not say he was not here to judge

              FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
              FaceDeerF This user is from outside of this forum
              FaceDeer
              wrote on last edited by
              #100

              He did, however, say that he was not here to debate.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • J This user is from outside of this forum
                J This user is from outside of this forum
                joshuafalken@lemmy.world
                wrote on last edited by
                #101

                You aren’t unique in this. Everyone does things beyond grocery shopping. I don’t see suggestions that you should take to the dentist, the hardware store, the cinema all on a bike. It’s all been about something we all do: groceries. If you took the bike to pick up the milk, your car doesn’t get sold out from under you while you’re away. If you like pens and use a pencil to sketch something, it doesn’t mean you can never use pens again.

                Going on about all the other things a car benefits you for is irrelevant when the conversation being had was about one specific circumstance. Now I’m not sure what to think about your statement on going for groceries two or three times a week would cost you an extra hour. If you live so close to the shop, that surely wouldn’t be the case. Maybe ten or fifteen minutes I’d figure, unless you’re spending quite some time in the store? I’m in and out in ten minutes going a couple times a week because I’m not filling the pantry in one go.

                At multiple points in this thread, suggestions have been flatly rejected for reasons of false ‘impossibility’ and other responsibilities procluding car alternatives. None of what’s been suggested has been meant to have you sell your car and solely go with a bike. Replacing one or two trips a week on a bike is fine and reasonable, and very possible for anyone living within a short distance of something as common as a grocery store.

                Now I will take a note from mavvik@lemmy.ca and bid you adieu. But if nothing else, consider you may be best served in hiring a delivery service in lieu of shopping yourself. Or perhaps toss the car in the river and get a real grocery-getter.

                1 Reply Last reply
                1
                • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                  Honestly a massive game changer if one uses a bike for transportation.

                  J This user is from outside of this forum
                  J This user is from outside of this forum
                  jhex@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #102

                  i go every where on a kick scooter now (electric)… I’m now looking into an electric bike as I had assumed they did not work well in winter

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                    We have zero IP on battery technology. All the factories Trudeau was funding were for outdated tech.

                    This country spends the lowest of the G8 on R&D and we have nothing to develop as a result of that.

                    So we invested $46B on corporate welfare on EV factories but you are LUCKY if NSERC will give you enough money for battery research to fund a single student.

                    This is a chronic problem of Canada and the reason why we constantly lose any edge in tech industry.

                    H This user is from outside of this forum
                    H This user is from outside of this forum
                    humanspiral@lemmy.ca
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #103

                    When Ford invoked “constitutional crisis” notwithstanding clause for cancelling comppleted wind projects, we knew the interests buttering his buns. Truedau was not particularly firm against disinformation on carbon tax or climate sustainability.

                    Certainly, Trump is most to blame for scaring away investment committment follow through, but Ford is bribed to sabotage any future Canadian participation in global progress.

                    A strategy to invest in any interesting Canadian University patentable ideas has always been an exclusive offer to US oligarchy who is already dependent on fossil fuel protectionism. The exclusivity of potential slave masters also means terrible investment terms if the slaver accepts your begging for submission.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • V voluble@lemmy.ca

                      Chinese EVs are very bad for Canadian national security. China cannot be trusted and is actively antagonistic to Canadian interests. The fact that any Canadian would want Chinese EVs on our streets and in our garages is a complete mystery to me.

                      Nik282000N This user is from outside of this forum
                      Nik282000N This user is from outside of this forum
                      Nik282000
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #104

                      Every Canadian has a phone that records everything they do and reports it back to Google, Apple, and Amazon. No one cares that they are being spied on as long as they get their infinite scroll and self-driving car.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0

                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Login or register to search.
                      Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                      • First post
                        Last post