I don’t see why it should be subsidized with taxes.
Deutsche Post manages to successfully keep mail flowing as an independent self funded service, why can’t Canada Post?
The simple fact of the matter is that the union is unwilling to budge on finding ways to improve efficiency because the more employees they have paying dues, the more they get paid.
If this was a private company, they’d be willing to work it out because they’d be afraid of the business folding, but here they think the well runs not just deep, but infinitely so.

Community mailboxes are almost always a block away or less. Everywhere I’ve lived in the last 10 years I’ve just had to cross the street to check the mail. There’s no 15 minute walk…

If you’re used to having your mail right at your door, then having to go check it is a little extra hassle, but really not terrible. I check mine like once or twice a week.

Maybe Canada Post could implement something like USPS has: They’ll send you an email summary of pictures of the mail arriving each day.

“The bottom line is this: Canada Post is effectively insolvent,” Lightbound said earlier Thursday.

“It provides an essential service to Canadians, and in particular to rural, remote and Indigenous communities, and Canadians are rightfully attached to it and want it saved. However, repeated bailouts from the federal government are not the solution.”

FFS it’s a service not a business; profit is not the goal. Paying bills for services isn’t ‘bailing out’ your service provider, it’s paying for what you’ve used.

Mail transit is essential for a modern civilization, and it’s not something that should be privately controlled. Having private options is fine, but there should ALWAYS be a federal mail service.

Good. Eliminating all door to door deliveries is not the answer and whoever came up with that rationale needs to removed immediately.

And again, for the people in the back: Canada post is a service. It doesn’t make money. It costs money. Same way public healthcare does.

Why are they trying to spin it as a business that needs to generate profit or undertake cost cutting measures to exist and continue providing services that are still being widely used?

I agree with your notion of “evolving it” to fit the needs and requirements of today however I don’t agree with your other points.

Their plan is to remove door to door entirely, not just limit it to 3 days (which, I wouldn’t have any major qualms about at this time if that was the endgame, which it isn’t)

However I shouldn’t need to be disabled to receive this basic level of service, nor do I want to hobble over to the mailbox or postal office that’s “very close to my house” because the current one is a 15 minute walk on a good day, and a 35 minute trudge through half snow covered roads on a bad one. And if we’re going with this, hypothetically, how would I even know I have any mail? Do I get a call? Do I get a notice at my door? Do I just have to show up every so often and check?

If it’s option 1, I can assure you that my phone’s functions are set by default to filter and drop any unknown calls. So that’s far from an optimal approach.

If it’s option 3, I will not be randomly dropping by the postal office or box because currently nowhere near (or on) any common route that I take, and I have no reason to do a random cold check especially if I work primarily from home

And if it’s option 2, you’re already here to deliver my notice, might as well bring my mail instead.

Besides the above outlined items, I’m not going to touch the time sensitive items argument because Canada post handles more than just mail, they also handle biological deliveries, medicine, restricted substances, stuff like live bees, all your legal documents, subpoenas, medical, etc. plus a bunch of other services that I’m probably forgetting.

What if you live in a very rural place? I shouldn’t have to drive to retrieve my mail which would surely happen as there aren’t enough houses nearby to warrant it being a community box location. I’d likely make sure I receive nothing via Canada Post anymore as much as possible, and they can fill some community box with junk mail until there’s no more room.

Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?

Taxes. It’s a government service.
The Department of National Defence had a shortfall of $28.8 billion last year, who is supposed to pay for that?

The 2024 Federal budget had a revenue of 498 billion. The Canada Post “shortfall” was less than 0.2% of the budget.

Here’s the thing, right now for my 2-3 days of mail delivery per week, the postal service employee walks by my house every day.
The flyers that get dropped off on non mail days could just as easily be dropped off on the other 2-3 days instead.
This means that effectively for every piece of mail delivered to my house the 40-60% of the ‘last mile’ part of the postage costs are wasted on extra unneeded trips to/past my door.
For normal mail delivery we already have 5-10 day delivery timeframes. Anyone who accepts that variability doesn’t need daily delivery, and those that do need that clockwork delivery are using services like UPS or FedEx.

One thing the USPS does well is sending me an email every morning with a picture of every mail piece that’s going to be delivered that day. Then I can decide if it’s worth checking the mailbox

I can go weeks without checking it

Why should my taxes pay so you can get door service. I’ve never had that in my life. So why should 75% of the people pay so 25% can get door service. If you want it yiu should pay for it.

And it’s not like private businesses offer service to the remote parts of the country. I find it odd how you can mandate it serves every address and has to be profitable. Those two things do not mesh. If you want it profitable it well drop serving every address.

Maybe instead of giving away tax credits, they should use those taxes to improve Canada Post…

I’m not standing with either side here. This is going to be a case study in how not ever being able to reach a compromise completely destroys the public’s confidence in an institution. I just watched a rather large institution say behind closed doors today, that they’ll never have confidence in CP and it’s very soon going to be codified in their policy that it’s never used for any corporate purposes in the future. I’m also on a board that has already reached that conclusion with the uncertainty earlier this year, and now has a resolution out to their membership at their AGM to only electronically send notice for funds collections in the future, as CP can no longer be counted on.

CP is legitimately fucked, in more ways than one, and will never exist in the way it did yesterday morning, no matter what happens here. This is the nightmare scenario, and both the executive and the union only have themselves to thank for it. Their membership should be mad as hell, because not very many of them are going to have the jobs they once did. As a tax paying Canadian, I’m pretty mad at the executive too, how they can burn that much cash is mind boggling. Pretty f’n broken. You can curse me and throw all the hate that you want at me for this viewpoint, but it’s the stone cold truth.

Oh I am aware that they don’t really need to turn a profit. Net zero / cost recovery is more than good enough. And I am in no way implying using government legislation to regulate that market. We need Canada Post to change their business model where they can still retain their currently hired employees. Are they seriously not able to make significant changes to their existing model to be more competitive? It reeks of a non-innovative c-suite and board (and government officials) unwilling to take the hard road of actually working with the employees to make complex organizational changes. They are taking the easy way out via ‘standard accounting/business practices’ by slashing services and worker layoffs. That’s the easy way out.

What does the hard way look like? How about sitting down with union employees down to the lowest worker level and actually find ways for cost savings and new business opportunities to patch the shortfall? I don’t to believe that CP management truly has tried other than finger-pointing at external private businesses stealing their lunch from underneath them or government legislation that’s unwilling to change (because the fed gov is really the one in control here - so again, I’m saying they’re just taking the easy way out. You think an elected federal government employee is going to sit down and do the hard work to go around talking to a large number of union employees to find a way through all this? My bet is no - they’ll take the easy way out.)

Compete , optimize operation cost, and don’t listen to trump asking to spend 5% on NATO

Are you an idiot? Canada has no unlimited money . Canada will keep increasing the military defense while reducing the quality of all the services

The only people that benefit from competition, are the ones who own the company.

Ask people in BC how much they benefit from ICBC having a monopoly on car insurance…

Ask anyone in BC what their private health insurance looks like these days. Lots of companies out there, and none of them are offering plans anywhere close to what they used to. The difference is, ICBC has the largest cash reserve for payouts…while private insurance companies only have a fraction. That’s why premiums go up and services go down. None of them alone, are able to make enough money to sustain the level of service we expect. Put them all together, and they should. But only if you also remove the profit margins from the equation.

You want to fix ICBC…then we need to regulate it better. The more it behaves like a private insurance company, the worse the service gets. Treat it like a non-profit public service, and watch it come back to where it should be.