I don’t think Canada post needs to be profitable, I agree that it’s a service and should be run like one rather than a business.

But just because it’s a government run service doesn’t mean we need to toss money away either. If problems have been identified and they can be more efficient, why not?

I don’t see why mail needs to be delivered every single day, especially if it’s only junkmail that day.

I don’t see why door to door delivery is necessary either now a days. I lived in an area where I had to drive 20 minutes to pick up my mail, I survived. Maybe there’s a scenario I’m missing that my life experience hasn’t exposed me to yet, but if there are cases like that, maybe disabled people, let them apply for door to door delivery on a special case by case basis.

I agree with all those points. Door to door mail delivery was a postwar job creation program in USA as far as I know, maybe it’s the same for Canada, but it is a luxury unless it’s super high density.

I have a recycling bin next to my mailbox. Almost everything goes in there. I can check it once a week.

If i have to travel to get my mail, i’ll probably never see my mail.

In an unhelpful, though unfortunately lawful, end-run around the union, the Liberals had granted Canada Post’s request to put a “final offer” directly to members in May. To no one’s surprise, nearly 70 per cent of voting postal workers rejected the proposed contracts. With the government again putting its thumb on the scale for Canada Post management in last Thursday’s announcement, the union had little choice but to escalate to full job action now.
For nearly two years, Canada Post management has been pushing a narrative that the crown corporation is broke and the only solution is to impose the costs of restructuring on workers.

Mail services are, in my opinion, a worthwhile endeavour. People in remote parts of the country deserve to be able to get their bills on paper too.

I really liked the idea I saw in some interview where Mail Services could be switched up to being ‘Federal Services’ or Community Services…

We have all these buildings,

Why can’t they be Passport Services, Taxes Services,… I even liked the idea that Mail Carriers could be wellness checkers.

Need something notarized? Need to do a proof of identity? Photo taken, Etc. Pay them well, Train them well, Make them more than just dropping of a letter. Expand them to be more than that.

Keep the hard earned infrastructure, and adapt it.

How to make Canada post profitable again:

1. Force Amazon to follow the fucking law and pay all of their contractors-but- not-really as either actual contractors(they’ll make far more money), or as employees(they’ll make far more money)
2. undo everything Stephen Harper and his cronies did.

Why is nobody clueing in that if Canada Post goes under we’re all gonna be stuck getting our legal documents and important mail via severely underpaid and over worked amazon delivery drivers!?

You get what you pay for. The short sightedness of all this is astounding.

I don’t see why we can’t designate door-to-door mailing in sparsely populated areas and community mailboxes in more crowded places? Wouldn’t that save quite some money while still ensuring that people don’t have to spend ridiculous amounts of time to get their mail? I’d imagine that in more crowded places, because things are a bit more down in scale, people wouldn’t have to drive 20 minutes just to get their mail, and it would generally be a 5 minute walk.

We can do something more creative too. If there’s a nearby cafe or something, make that the community mailbox and people can grab their mail and have coffee. Your parcels would be away from the elements, and the cafe can become sort of a 3rd place. It’s more efficient land use!

We can also make community mailboxes have the ability to notify the people whenever there’s something in the mail, and people can subscribe to that system if they wish to (not everyone wants or can use digital ways of getting information). That way, it’s more difficult for people to forget about their mail. There definitely is a development cost and ongoing maintenance cost, but hey, it’s an option.

For those in sparsely populated areas, nothing much would change, if any. I think they could still have community mailboxes and just opt into it if it fits their lifestyle (eg, they choose to head out to the mailbox every Tues and Fri, for example). They can change their delivery option by going online or just visit a library or somewhere they can get a person to help them change their setting.

Is that a bit more work for postal workers to have to separate mail? It could be, but perhaps we could append some kind of token to the address to clearly distinguish door-to-door vs community mailboxes, making it easier to verify by eye, and also easier to automatically separate via a scanner if needed. Heck, could we just plaster a QR code to mail?

For those who changed their option, you might still get mail either in your community mailbox or your own mailbox, depending on what you’ve switched to.

Just spitballing here. There’s a lot you can argue about each idea, but there are many things we can do to be more efficient, make it less painful for our postal workers but also save out on cost.

Sell public-option banking and cell phone services at post office branches and you’d turn instant profit. Bigger branches could also carry dry grocery goods. There is so much more they could be doing other than trying to out-Bezos the mail.

It is a luxury, but I don’t think we’re wrong to want luxuries. I think the frequency issue is intentionally disregarded. And it shouldn’t be. I’d rather have weekly delivery to my door than daily to a community mailbox. But what I’d really like is choice. What if we had both a community mailbox and weekly door-to-door delivery? Need something urgently, pick it up at the community mailbox where it gets dropped off daily, but if you’re not religiously emptying your community mailbox, a postman still comes by once a week to deliver any mail from your community mailbox to your home?

I suspect this could potentially save a lot of money AND provide actually better service to the significant majority of people. To the point that we could even start expanding door-to-door delivery again instead of removing it, we’d just expand it to areas that currently only have community mailboxes but do it on a reduced frequency, like garbage and recycling services. If they can do it weekly in most places, why can’t the postal service?

How much money is the military losing per day? As far as I can tell they aren’t bringing in any income at all!

Who only deliver to and around places that are profitable.

Most people don’t even get door to door delivery it is a luxury for a small percentage of people. Why does a small percentage get special treatment? Because they have always had it? That’s not a valid reason.

So you have to walk 5 minutes or drive by it on your way to or from someplace and you’ll never pick it up? I mean I only maybe once a month unless I’m expecting something. Don’t see what the big issue is.

But hey I didn’t even know home delivery was a thing till the last strike.

Public option cell and Internet I’d be very down with, especially if they reclaimed the lines they paid bell and Rogers to lay

Not to mention the people who have it are generally wealthier because it’s mostly for detached homes at this point.

Maybe they can deliver the junk mail!

Yes and yes.
I’ve been mentioning France’s efforts to modernise their postal services, that also includes services aimed at helping older folks with daily/weekly interactions / home visits, and I think that would be a great thing to add to Canada Post rural offerings.

I don’t really agree that you have the right to paper bills. It’s a waste all around and should be subject to additional fees. We live in a digital age, time to adapt.

I do think that remote areas deserve to receive mail for other purposes, but bills aren’t one of those.

Did you miss the part where I suggested expanding it? You know, being progressive instead of regressive? Instead of taking away the luxury, let’s find a way to give more people the luxury? So that it’s not special treatment, it’s everyone’s treatment?