Don’t let your tankies moralize Canada into the ground. You guys are in a position to NOT become like us. The US is currently fucked and your own Alberta MAGA is gaining head way. Do whatever is necessary to prevent Canadian conservatives from power. Even if your Liberals are garbage.

Reads like something Trump would tweet

I’m convinced they are planning some sort of annexation/invasion anyway. They’ll just find a reason at some point. It can be anything. We have water and plenty of natural resources that would be good for American billionaires to own.

Just look at what Trump requires of Ukraine in order to help them. They’re gonna make some bullshit up, like our resources are critical to their national security, or something like that. It’s good to delay this as much as possible and not antagonize them - maybe they’ll be busy invading Venezuela or Mexico first - but it’s probably going to happen regardless.

Take your own advice and do something about your president. He’s your mess after all, we didn’t vote for the orange fuck.

It’s not impossible, but I don’t think this government plans all that much in general. And, they’d need to massage the public discourse for a bit first.

ill prefer made in canada, and be fine with ‘not american’

I’m not liking his performance to date, but this sounds like astroturfing.

They tolerated the bullshit trump did. At least that’s how I read it.

On paper. We don’t need his assent for anything. And if we did we have the Gov. Gen.

I hate that he’s better than the alternative

I hate seeing us becoming more of a two party system

we need voting reform

How? I found it cringe. He doesn’t even have to interject but he could at least not do this act of listening intently to him while he speaks nonsense as if he were giving a high level lecture. It feels like performative kowtowing in hopes that Trump will reward him for it… which he will not.

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with my initial comment.

I basically said he’s letting the foreign moron talk until he goes away. Unfortunately, I used the word “tolerate”, and that triggered people’s pre-programmed scripts about authorities allowing the domestic spread of genocide denial or whatever.

VERY BAD!!!

(that’s the joke)

Huh, I think you’ve fell victim of confirmation bias in this case.

Which is truly the ceinge position to be in.

It’s about not having the mindset of someone lives in the 51st State and instead lives in a sovereign, equal nation to the US. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that Mark Carney should bow down to Trump and nod along to everything he says, no matter how bigoted or indefensible, which is the implicit mindset of someone who sees their country as weaker, inferior one to the US.

It seems like you have some issues reading the situation.

You won’t find an argument here

You’re so angry.

… And I’m not sure I follow your point.

People are making it a what?

How did you take the leap from Carney not standing up to Trump about trans people to straight up fascism?

I’m more confused than anything.

I’m with you. The whole strategic voting thing… Even I’ve been victim of it and it was no more obvious than in the last election.

A lot of people voted liberal because they wanted to shut out the conservatives, and liberal votes had the best chance of doing that.

The problem is organization and agreement.

If we all agree to drop the strategic voting and just go with who we actually want, for a single election, I’m sure things would massively change. The trick is, getting everyone to agree on anything.