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China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador

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  • packet@lemmy.mlP packet@lemmy.ml

    Nice racism you got there buddy

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    donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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    #75

    Nothing racist about Winnie the Pooh, he is cuddly and stuffed with fluff!

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    • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

      These are all blatant lies, but thanks for proving me right, bot.

      Btw, native English speakers don’t write things like “giggles”.

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      Arthur Besse
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      #76

      These are all blatant lies

      The comment you’re replying to contains an opinion, two statements of fact, two more opinions, an historical assessment couched in “i don’t really think”, and finally closes with giggles and lol.

      I don’t see any lies there; if you think the factual claims in it are wrong I encourage you to read up: the PRC and ROC actually do both claim all of China, and the PRC’s foreign policy is largely non-interventionist.

      thanks for proving me right, bot

      Do you find many people online with opinions differing from your own who you don’t think are bots?

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      • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

        There is/should be a lot of room for compromise.

        A mix of “reasonable” tariffs and quotas to start, to make Chinese EVs competitive without destroying domestic manufacturing is a good path. Canada needs investment. Whether foreign auto makers do it, following through on previous commitments, shutting out China can be a reward for them.

        Without choosing to provide value cars to Canadians, Canada could offer agriculture for Chinese (solar) energy trade. Pemitting them to boost capacity even more.

        Instead of begging the US to buy (and own through investment) our resources, Chinese development would help significantly as well.

        Corrupt ideology programmed into Canadians is bad for Canada. We need new friends instead of abusers, and the only reform of an abuser possible comes when they beg for forgiveness when you flirt with new friends.

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        bcboy911@lemmy.ca
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        #77

        We don’t even need to be “friends” with China, we just need to recognize the situation we’re in and work with them pragmatically. Rejecting China in the current economy is like rejecting gravity.

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        • Nik282000N Nik282000

          Hey, remember when China was operating their own police force in Canada? Maybe we should be doing less business with them.

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          renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          #78

          I remember people saying that but I don’t recall ever seeing any evidence of it actually happening

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          • P penguintd@lemmy.ca

            This is exactly the mentality that caused WW1 and WW2 AND the upcoming (or ongoing) WW3. You probably did not aware how many IP theft happened to Canadian local firms and institutions.

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            bcboy911@lemmy.ca
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            #79

            Who the fuck cares about IP theft lmao. They can have it, ideas should be free.

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            • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

              Nothing racist about Winnie the Pooh, he is cuddly and stuffed with fluff!

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              packet@lemmy.ml
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              #80

              Yes, nothing wrong with Winnie the pooh, great character, silly bear. Except for when the yellow bear is used to portray an Asian person, coupled with the “Tigger” the tiger used to portray a black person, i.e. Obama.

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              • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

                Yes, but I’d much rather have the company controlling the official switch not be directly under the control of China.

                The US is only marginally better right now, but they have less incentive to do it and less control of their car companies.

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                A vulnerability was found this year in an undisclosed major car manufacture in the USA that gave total control to an attacker over all vehicles sold by that manufacture’s dealerships. Remote start/shutoff, unlock doors, GPS tracking, even transferring the ownership to another person. All modern vehicles are a security nightmare, the chinese are no better, no worse. https://eaton-works.com/2025/10/13/def-con-33/

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                • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                  This happened for real at the weekend:

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                  Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the weekend

                  Jeep has pulled the update; owners are advised to ignore it if it already downloaded.

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                  • C clearwater@lemmy.world

                    Once you’re inside a car that’s on, there really isn’t any security*. The OBD2 port that every remotely modern car has is perfectly capable of accessing all the diagnostics and data streams the car has, and can also control/reconfigure the various computers.

                    IMO that doesn’t really matter, since the system isn’t powered until the key is in the ignition and the car turned on. You can’t do anything with the key off, and if your passenger wanted to sabotage the car, they’d just yank the wheel as you drive down the highway.

                    That said, yes OTA updates are a travesty. Specifically because cars have so little security, having any access to their computers from the outside is a massive risk… And if there’s a potential that the country the manufacturer is in turns hostile, that risk certainly isn’t reduced.

                    * A handful of manufacturers have “added” security to their systems by… (drumroll pls) restricting access to the systems and requiring a subscription for full access. That’s fucking evil and doesn’t even do anything (at least for a mechanic or tinkerer like me) since you can just google “FCA bypass cable” and skip right past the firewall.

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                    Nik282000
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                    Modern cars expose the engine/body control CAN bus through the fucking headlights. You don’t need to be in the car and it doesn’t need to be on for you to have the same or more access than the OBDII port.

                    It doesn’t matter what the country of origin is, someone is gonna find a way to break OTA updates, gain access via exposed wireless networks or just pop off a CAN bus controlled light and plug in. How long before someone pushes a malicious update that causes the ABS to disable or degrade braking to near 0%, or just throw the electronic power steering full left whenever the speed exceeds 101km/h?

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                    • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                      Hey kinda like the F-35

                      It’s fine though when the Americans do it do is.

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                      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                      #84

                      Carney is still buying those lemons the US Navy rejected. I guess elbows out means buying overpriced junk while cutting all services.

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                      • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                        Carney is still buying those lemons the US Navy rejected. I guess elbows out means buying overpriced junk while cutting all services.

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                        hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        “how do I hold all these” meme but instead of his arms it’s just elbows

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                        • Nik282000N Nik282000

                          A vulnerability was found this year in an undisclosed major car manufacture in the USA that gave total control to an attacker over all vehicles sold by that manufacture’s dealerships. Remote start/shutoff, unlock doors, GPS tracking, even transferring the ownership to another person. All modern vehicles are a security nightmare, the chinese are no better, no worse. https://eaton-works.com/2025/10/13/def-con-33/

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                          blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
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                          They are worse, because the Chinese government has direct access to an official kill switch if they want it.

                          Just because there can be other problems doesn’t make that any less of a problem

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                          • Nik282000N Nik282000

                            Modern cars expose the engine/body control CAN bus through the fucking headlights. You don’t need to be in the car and it doesn’t need to be on for you to have the same or more access than the OBDII port.

                            It doesn’t matter what the country of origin is, someone is gonna find a way to break OTA updates, gain access via exposed wireless networks or just pop off a CAN bus controlled light and plug in. How long before someone pushes a malicious update that causes the ABS to disable or degrade braking to near 0%, or just throw the electronic power steering full left whenever the speed exceeds 101km/h?

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                            programmingsocks@pawb.social
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                            #87

                            But that would be silly, because the easiest way to kill someone without consequence is to get behind the wheel and run them over. People could also be putting bombs in product boxes and poison in medicine. A coherent society doesn’t have these problems.

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                            • Rose56R Rose56

                              It’s not like Chinese EV’s are bad, but they have started a war to overtake EV industry.
                              Their government is founding EV companies, to advance and take the lead, putting at risk companies like Ford, BMW and so on.

                              I sawthis video, and I saw how they have managed to change battery instead of charging the car, and I was impressed of what they can actually do.

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                              indridcold@lemmy.ca
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                              I don’t think China even needed to work hard to take the lead. US car companies have been fighting EV manufacture for years. The few EVs they do put out are crippled to make them less viable for the average American market. They do this to push more HUGE trucks that slurp gas.

                              US car companies refuse to work outside what they know. Fuck um. They need to die.

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                              • Nik282000N Nik282000

                                Modern cars expose the engine/body control CAN bus through the fucking headlights. You don’t need to be in the car and it doesn’t need to be on for you to have the same or more access than the OBDII port.

                                It doesn’t matter what the country of origin is, someone is gonna find a way to break OTA updates, gain access via exposed wireless networks or just pop off a CAN bus controlled light and plug in. How long before someone pushes a malicious update that causes the ABS to disable or degrade braking to near 0%, or just throw the electronic power steering full left whenever the speed exceeds 101km/h?

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                                lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                                #89

                                Only Toyota was dumb enough to have a CAN bus run to the headlights. Edit: and use the same bus the keyless system runs on.

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                                • P programmingsocks@pawb.social

                                  But that would be silly, because the easiest way to kill someone without consequence is to get behind the wheel and run them over. People could also be putting bombs in product boxes and poison in medicine. A coherent society doesn’t have these problems.

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                                  Nik282000
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                                  Forgot about wanacrypt, stuxnet or the Ashley Madison breach? indiscriminate harm is the norm not the exception.

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                                  • lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caL lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca

                                    Only Toyota was dumb enough to have a CAN bus run to the headlights. Edit: and use the same bus the keyless system runs on.

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                                    Nik282000
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                                    It’s in dodge vehicles now, the other manufactures will follow soon. It saves a fuck ton of wising when you only need to run a single power wire and data bus to each light cluster instead of power for high beams, low beams, fog lights, indicators and vanity wank lights.

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                                    • Nik282000N Nik282000

                                      It’s in dodge vehicles now, the other manufactures will follow soon. It saves a fuck ton of wising when you only need to run a single power wire and data bus to each light cluster instead of power for high beams, low beams, fog lights, indicators and vanity wank lights.

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                                      lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                                      Yes, but it is a different CAN bus than anything critical to the operation of the powertrain. A typical BMW will have five or six different, and completely separate, CAN bus.

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                                      • lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.caL lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca

                                        Yes, but it is a different CAN bus than anything critical to the operation of the powertrain. A typical BMW will have five or six different, and completely separate, CAN bus.

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                                        Nik282000
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                                        And bmw makes up 3% of the north american market. The big players will continue to cut corners and crank out cars with minimal or non-existant security. Not that it matters, manufactures are bricking their own products: https://www.thestack.technology/jeep-software-update-bricks-vehicles-leaves-owners-stranded/

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                                        • Nik282000N Nik282000

                                          And bmw makes up 3% of the north american market. The big players will continue to cut corners and crank out cars with minimal or non-existant security. Not that it matters, manufactures are bricking their own products: https://www.thestack.technology/jeep-software-update-bricks-vehicles-leaves-owners-stranded/

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                                          lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                                          BMW is the largest US exporter of vehicles.

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