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The Conservative floor crosser actually reveals a lot about the Liberal budget (and it's not pretty)

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  • C Cyborganism

    It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

    I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

    They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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    Sunshine (she/her)
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    The liberals have fearmongered people well!

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    • C Cyborganism

      It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

      I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

      They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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      blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
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      Voting for the Conservatives was going to be an even bigger mistake.

      No idea why you think the Liberals were the worst of the two options available.

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      • C Cyborganism

        It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

        I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

        They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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        panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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        Okay, and Pollievre would be better?

        Singh was completely cooked since the 2021 election, running him again and with such poor messaging was entirely the NDP’s fault. It was not fear-mongering.

        Singh’s numbers had been publicly decreasing for years, he lost seats in past elections, and the NDP decided to run a ton of single issue candidates run whose whole platform was Palestine.

        Meanwhile the party quietly did have a decent pro middle class platform, but didn’t really message that and got too caught up on how tax cuts also affect the rich (up to a very small amount of their income).

        I’m sorry but there was only one choice this election. I would have loved a real NDP choice, they chose not to.

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        • C Cyborganism

          It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

          I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

          They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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          FaceDeer
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          Only two parties were realistically capable of forming a government in that election. One was led by Carney, the other by Pollievre.

          You’re saying going with the Carney option was a “big mistake?”

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          • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)

            The corporate liberals are gutting taxes on private jets, yachts and unused housing while Mark Carney is telling struggling canadians to make sacrifices.

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            rozodru
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            oh and don’t forget they also want to give $1billion to AI development over the next 5 years.

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            • C Cyborganism

              It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

              I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

              They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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              rozodru
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              I mean what choice did we have? we didn’t. It was either a conservative in a liberal furry suit, A wanna-be apple munching trump, or a guy that has never had an original thought pass through his head.

              We were fucked. we realized we were fucked. And we decided the fake liberal was the way to go. Canadian politics are so fucked our choices are conservative, ultra conservative, or a weak wannabe democrat party.

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              • C Cyborganism

                It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

                I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

                They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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                jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not

                What was the better option?

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                • J jack_burton@lemmy.ca

                  “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not

                  What was the better option?

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                  soup@lemmy.world
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                  #12

                  The NDP were right there.

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                  • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

                    Voting for the Conservatives was going to be an even bigger mistake.

                    No idea why you think the Liberals were the worst of the two options available.

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                    soup@lemmy.world
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                    We’re not a two-party system, champ.

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                    • C Cyborganism

                      It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

                      I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

                      They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

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                      amuletta@lemmy.ca
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                      What was the alternative? I would have loved to vote NDP, and usually do in local elections, but they stood no chance. I wasn’t so much voting for Carney as against Poilievre.

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                      • S soup@lemmy.world

                        We’re not a two-party system, champ.

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                        Sunshine (she/her)
                        wrote last edited by sunshine@lemmy.ca
                        #15

                        Corruption and polarization thrives under two-party systems.

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                        • S soup@lemmy.world

                          The NDP were right there.

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                          amuletta@lemmy.ca
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                          They stood no realistic chance of getting in.

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                          • A amuletta@lemmy.ca

                            What was the alternative? I would have loved to vote NDP, and usually do in local elections, but they stood no chance. I wasn’t so much voting for Carney as against Poilievre.

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                            Sunshine (she/her)
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                            Withhold your volunteering and donating to the liberals since they already get so much money from the rich consistently. They will always put their interests before everyday canadians.

                            Strategically vote if you have to and redirect your efforts to the independents, fairvote and smaller parties.

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                            • S soup@lemmy.world

                              The NDP were right there.

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                              jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                              #18

                              Unfortunately they weren’t an option though. NDP members even encouraged NDP voters to vote Liberal to stop the Conservatives. The NDP should have been an option, but they weren’t. The NDP were only an “option” this election in the same way the Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada or the Animal Protection Party were options; they exist.

                              I have hopes (probably unrealistic) that the NDP comes back swinging HARD, screaming about social services, programs, and taxes on the wealthy, and not shutting up leading up to 2029. I hope Mamdani in NY can prove in his first 3 months leading up to when the NDP has their leadership vote that if social programs can work in the US, we can significantly increase those structures here.

                              The NDP can be relevent again for the next election (I hope), but they just weren’t for this last one.

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                              • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                                Okay, and Pollievre would be better?

                                Singh was completely cooked since the 2021 election, running him again and with such poor messaging was entirely the NDP’s fault. It was not fear-mongering.

                                Singh’s numbers had been publicly decreasing for years, he lost seats in past elections, and the NDP decided to run a ton of single issue candidates run whose whole platform was Palestine.

                                Meanwhile the party quietly did have a decent pro middle class platform, but didn’t really message that and got too caught up on how tax cuts also affect the rich (up to a very small amount of their income).

                                I’m sorry but there was only one choice this election. I would have loved a real NDP choice, they chose not to.

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                                mrdown@lemmy.world
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                                Maybe canada should stop preaching about human right values if they still support the longest standing occupation in the world. NPD platform was not about palestine only. Outside of the debate npd never talked about Palestine in the compaign

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                                • Sunshine (she/her)S Sunshine (she/her)

                                  The corporate liberals are gutting taxes on private jets, yachts and unused housing while Mark Carney is telling struggling canadians to make sacrifices.

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                                  mbech@feddit.dk
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                                  I kept reading on here how Carney was such a smart choice, because of his work with the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England. Not like that job scream “fucking over the poor” or anything… /s

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                                  • A amuletta@lemmy.ca

                                    What was the alternative? I would have loved to vote NDP, and usually do in local elections, but they stood no chance. I wasn’t so much voting for Carney as against Poilievre.

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                                    Cyborganism
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                                    Even a minority conservative government with a strong NDP would have been better than a minority neo-liberal (read fiscal conservative) and conservative (read morally conservative) government with no one to stop them.

                                    The liberals are so conservative under Carney that conservatives are jumping to his party ffs.

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                                    • J jack_burton@lemmy.ca

                                      “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not

                                      What was the better option?

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                                      Cyborganism
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                                      The NDP. Even under Jagmeet we would’ve had a better deal than this shit consevative sandwich that we have right now.

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                                      • rozodruR rozodru

                                        I mean what choice did we have? we didn’t. It was either a conservative in a liberal furry suit, A wanna-be apple munching trump, or a guy that has never had an original thought pass through his head.

                                        We were fucked. we realized we were fucked. And we decided the fake liberal was the way to go. Canadian politics are so fucked our choices are conservative, ultra conservative, or a weak wannabe democrat party.

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                                        Cyborganism
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                                        There’s a third, even fourth option. A strong NDP in a minority government would’ve gone a long way.

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                                          Cyborganism
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                                          You know minority governments are a thing though, right? I keep saying it in every comment here. Even a conservative minority with a strong NDP to keep it in check and demand compromises would’ve been better. At least there would’ve been a socialist influence.

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