Why do we keep putting billions of dollars into a dying industry? We literally just bought a pipeline, we dont need more. I really hate this country sometimes.

We’re going to fall behind on renewables because the elites are so shortsighted.

The fuck it is!

This will die in court. The “red tape elimination” they did will simply result in an unending string of lawsuits.

What part of it is dying? The demand for natural gas, keeps going up. We literally had two countries come to us when Russia shut down their gas lines, asking us to supply them and our (not so smart) PM at the time not only said no, but that there was ‘no business case’ for shipping more gas. Im pretty sure when there’s a customer knocking on your shop door asking when you’re gonna open up that there’s a business case.

So, block the main income producer in western Canada, so that the province that imports its oil and gas from other countries and has an abundance of hydroelectric as IT’S main natural resource can be happy?

Yup, that’s exactly the kind of attitude that has made western Canada so resentful. Especially when we know we’re sending that ‘blocking’ province 14 billion a year out of the revenues of the resource they love to block. Make it make sense.

He fearmongered far more on the ‘threat’ of Trump. That was the main point of his campaign and people actually believed that the US might invade Canada during the campaign. Its amazing what people will fall for - totally ignoring the fact that Trump is blustering loudmouth who will say anything as long as it gets him attention.

You mean, the same industry that’s behind all the global warming related climate catastrophies that we’ve been facing year over year and responsible for Canadian forests burning from East to West year over year for the past 3 years??? Thar industry? The one that we’re supposed to ramp down production to use alternative energies that are less impactful on the environment?

Maybe they should invest in other industries like green energy or other more sustainable industries.

You know that global climate change is actually GLOBAL, right? So 98.5% of the planet’s emissions do not come from Canada. And of the tiny amount that does, its less than half coming from oil and gas. That 0.7% is a rounding error in a computation that greatly depends on what’s input.

Canada’s O and G sector is NOT the great demon you’re making it out to be - it’s barely a factor in climate change. If you REALLY want to make a change, chase the countries who are major polluters - China and the US - you know, the two places that produce almost ALL the goods you buy and consume. Start with boycotting all your purchases from those two countries and I’ll believe you actually care about climate change.

NDP. They’re the better option. And we have minority governments here. Even if the conservatives had won as a minority, having a strong NDP to oppose them and require compromises would have been better. A budget like the one Carney presented wouldn’t have passed.

As Marx said, “A capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with.” You’re argument is only valid if you believe anthropogenic global warming isn’t real. If it is, and all the science indicates it is, then the business case is only valid in the short term, with massive penalties in 15 to 40 years.

Businesses make decisions based on the next quarter. Countries tend to have to look at the next decade.

Well, to be honest I think anthropogenic global warming is only half real. I used to live on Hawaii island and during the massive lava flow of 2018 it inundated my side of the island and I watched literally BILLIONS of gallons of lava, ash and volcanic gasses spew out of multiple vents for 3.5 months. That volcano has been continuously erupting for nearly 35 years and it recently has been spewing massive volumes again.

Kilauea volcano is part of the Ring of Fire - about 40,000 km long and up to about 500 km wide, and contains about 750 volcanoes. I have a very hard time believing that my little put put car is what’s causing most of global warming when I have witnessed the incredible volume of gas coming out of the earth.

You are right, but their is no future for it. Combustibles need to be eliminated from our energy markets. They are harming us and the entire planet we need to live. Huge expense for small time gains is bad leadership. If the markets were nationalized, I would be more excited to get more to market, even with what I said. It is not. We don’t need to help foreign entities take our resources faster for a pittance in tax benefits. Fuck that noise.

Like an Alberta separatist party? Seriously?

Yes but I said realistic. NDP won’t happen with our current system, much better chance with election reform.

If a cold country is asking for our gas, especially to eliminate dependence on a hostile foreign regime, that is definitely a worldwide improvement and harm reduction for millions of people. Its wishful thinking to say ‘eliminate it’ but thats not going to happen overnight, if ever, in some countries. If we have the resource NOW and they need it NOW, then its in their best interest AND ours to sell it to them now.

I bet it would if younger people bothered to go vote or if voting was mandatory and/or proportional.

Maybe but we have to work with what we have, believe me, we’re on the same side, just trying to avoid a conservative majority

I know.

I’m sorry, but that is such a shitty take. So because we’re not the biggest polluters, we shouldn’t make any effort to curb our emissions? Even if climate scientists are warning us that right now we need to drastically cut oil production, we shouldn’t take any initiatives if no one else does?

What the fuck man?

Canada is in the top 10 largest emitters of greenhouse gasses in the world. In 2023 we produced approx 800 million tons of of carbon emissions. Just behind Saudi Arabia. (Source)

Also take a look at this chart from the government of Canada about greenhouse gas emissions from large facilities and look how many are from Alberta. Especially red ones. The biggest emittors are located mostly in Alberta and southern Ontario. We can take a guess at what industries those are related to.

Per capita, we emit way too much pollution per person.

Also we had an engagement to reach certain goals according to the Paris Climate Change Agreement and instead of following through, we basically told everyone we’d stop trying. Along with many other countries. Those goals were important to avoid a drastic increase of global temperatures. And look at where we are now. There’s essentially no turning back. The climate is going to be fucked for good and we need to brace to deal with the consequences.