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The Backlash Against ‘Tip-flation’

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    tarsn@lemmy.ca
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    What I really hate are suggested tips from takeout restaurants that don’t even have a place to sit down.

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      What I really hate are suggested tips from takeout restaurants that don’t even have a place to sit down.

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      luxinnocte@lemmy.ca
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      Agreed. If I’m eating in, I’ll generally tip depending gin service. But the only service is handing me a bag to go, what’s the point in a tip?

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        mongostein@lemmy.ca
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        10% was good in the 90s, it’s good now.

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          What I really hate are suggested tips from takeout restaurants that don’t even have a place to sit down.

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          teppa
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          In BC we have tips at liquor stores now. For the casheer to ring it in.

          Of course people aren’t mad at tips, they are mad at the Bank of Canada buying all the federal debt issuance, that lead to a 50% increase in money supply that caused rampant inflation.

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            What I really hate are suggested tips from takeout restaurants that don’t even have a place to sit down.

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            some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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            There’s a tip jar at the gas station that I used to frequent. I really like the people who work there. They great me by name. No fucking way I’m tipping them.

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              some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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              Has the tax on tips been rescinded yet? Genuine question. It was a big enough promise for assholes to “tip” fake money that was actually party propaganda for Trump.

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                10% was good in the 90s, it’s good now.

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                Em Adespoton
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                …for situations where people are providing service above and beyond what you’re already paying for through other means.

                For me, this requires physical interaction between me and the person. If I can hand them a tip, it will be 10-15%, just like in the 90s.

                If I’m in Starbucks and when I order something a prompt comes up on the machine asking how much I’d like to tip, it will always be 0 unless I’m asking staff to come deliver my order to me outside instead of picking it up myself. They should already be being paid a fair wage for the work they do behind the counter, and if I find out they aren’t, I’ll take my business elsewhere.

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                  kevincox@lemmy.ml
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                  IMHO if we want to get rid of tips the way to go about it is to pick a date (for example January 1st 2026) then agree to stop tipping on that date. Hard and fast stop doing it. Stores can raise their prices to compensate.

                  The problem is that it is very hard to make this change incrementally. Because individuals are considered assholes if they don’t tip enough. So we all sort of got to get together and agree to it. Of course it will be hard to publicize this because big media companies are all owned by the rich that benefit by paying minimum wage workers less with the excuse that they can get tips.

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                    IMHO if we want to get rid of tips the way to go about it is to pick a date (for example January 1st 2026) then agree to stop tipping on that date. Hard and fast stop doing it. Stores can raise their prices to compensate.

                    The problem is that it is very hard to make this change incrementally. Because individuals are considered assholes if they don’t tip enough. So we all sort of got to get together and agree to it. Of course it will be hard to publicize this because big media companies are all owned by the rich that benefit by paying minimum wage workers less with the excuse that they can get tips.

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                    chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                    By agree do you mean pass a law that bans tipping? Because there’s no such thing as “everyone agrees to do X” and then “everyone does X” when you’re talking about millions of people.

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                      By agree do you mean pass a law that bans tipping? Because there’s no such thing as “everyone agrees to do X” and then “everyone does X” when you’re talking about millions of people.

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                      kevincox@lemmy.ml
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                      No, I don’t mean a law. I don’t even know how you would make this a law. You can already legally just walk away. Maybe you can have a law that the “no tip” option on card machines must be at least as easy as the tip option or something.

                      There is no such thing as “everyone”, but you only need a tipping point. Maybe 1/3 of people or similar. You just need enough awareness so that it isn’t considered incredibly rude or outrageous, that most retail workers will understand what is happening and the businesses will see it coming. It definitely wouldn’t be easy, that is why I would put the target date far in advance (maybe next January is actually too close). So that cultural knowledge could slowly be built and enough people to make a difference would switch at the same time.

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                        No, I don’t mean a law. I don’t even know how you would make this a law. You can already legally just walk away. Maybe you can have a law that the “no tip” option on card machines must be at least as easy as the tip option or something.

                        There is no such thing as “everyone”, but you only need a tipping point. Maybe 1/3 of people or similar. You just need enough awareness so that it isn’t considered incredibly rude or outrageous, that most retail workers will understand what is happening and the businesses will see it coming. It definitely wouldn’t be easy, that is why I would put the target date far in advance (maybe next January is actually too close). So that cultural knowledge could slowly be built and enough people to make a difference would switch at the same time.

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                        chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                        I think people are reducing their tipping but not in the way you expect: they’re reducing their frequency of restaurant visits instead. I see so many restaurants operating on skeleton crews now. They all seem to be having a very difficult time keeping staff while their rents soar due to rising real estate prices.

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                          I think people are reducing their tipping but not in the way you expect: they’re reducing their frequency of restaurant visits instead. I see so many restaurants operating on skeleton crews now. They all seem to be having a very difficult time keeping staff while their rents soar due to rising real estate prices.

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                          kevincox@lemmy.ml
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                          Maybe in some areas. But in downtown Toronto tons of restaurants are super busy, and delivery orders seem through the roof. But this also doesn’t really solve the tipping problem, it seems pretty orthogonal.

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                            Agreed. If I’m eating in, I’ll generally tip depending gin service. But the only service is handing me a bag to go, what’s the point in a tip?

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                            tarsn@lemmy.ca
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                            The kitchen staff isn’t doing anything above and beyond the cost of the product in my opinion. I’m buying sushi I’m expecting to pay x amount for x product of y quality. The only way for them to go above and beyond is to give me free stuff on the plate but that just feels like buying more food with extra steps

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                              Has the tax on tips been rescinded yet? Genuine question. It was a big enough promise for assholes to “tip” fake money that was actually party propaganda for Trump.

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                              someone@lemmy.ca
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                              Why would people fake tip Trump propaganda in Canada?

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                                howrar@lemmy.ca
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                                I just want predictable prices when I go out to eat. I don’t want to find out after getting the bill that your idea of a reasonable tip for good service is 25%.

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                                  Why would people fake tip Trump propaganda in Canada?

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                                  some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                  Why does Trumpism exist in Canada, Brazil, etc? But you’re right. I didn’t notice to what community I was commenting.

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