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China will remove canola tariffs if Canada scraps EV levies: ambassador

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  • Nik282000N Nik282000

    Hey, remember when China was operating their own police force in Canada? Maybe we should be doing less business with them.

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    nucleative@lemmy.world
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    #63

    Send some mounties to Beijing

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    • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

      Wanna see a trick? I can make bots appear, watch this:

      Maybe if China agrees to stop being a threat to Taiwan, stops interfering in our politics, and stops spying on us, and builds some auto plants here to employ some Canadians, we can talk about their fucking EVs. Until then, we already have one international bully as a trade partner, we don’t need more.

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      packet@lemmy.ml
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      #64

      “Threat to Taiwan” they are a threat to each other, Taiwan claims the whole of China, PRC claims the whole of China as well.

      “Interfering in our politics” sinophobic, but even then the US presents a much bigger threat. I don’t really think there is much interventionism done by the PRC troughout its history lol

      “Stops spying on us” US giggles lol

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      • Nik282000N Nik282000

        Hey, remember when China was operating their own police force in Canada? Maybe we should be doing less business with them.

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        savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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        #65

        You really want an isolationist economy like the USA?

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        • P penguintd@lemmy.ca

          This is exactly the mentality that caused WW1 and WW2 AND the upcoming (or ongoing) WW3. You probably did not aware how many IP theft happened to Canadian local firms and institutions.

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          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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          #66

          What IP? How to dig holes with oxycontin addicts? Hilarious, Canada spends fuck all in R&D.

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          • Rose56R Rose56

            It’s not like Chinese EV’s are bad, but they have started a war to overtake EV industry.
            Their government is founding EV companies, to advance and take the lead, putting at risk companies like Ford, BMW and so on.

            I sawthis video, and I saw how they have managed to change battery instead of charging the car, and I was impressed of what they can actually do.

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            savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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            Battery swapping is now redundant with newer cheaper sodium based batteries. They can now make a 100kwhr pack for $10,000, down 90% from ten years ago.

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            • P penguintd@lemmy.ca

              It’s a serious security hole cause the software can be updated through network, the version gets audit and all the follow up update can be good, but the moment it needs to go rogue you just need 1 malicious update to have serious and wide spread harm/attack on a button.

              IMO for any vehicles to allow over the network update is beyond stupid. (yes, that includes Tesla.)

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              hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              #68

              Hey kinda like the F-35

              It’s fine though when the Americans do it do is.

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              • packet@lemmy.mlP packet@lemmy.ml

                “Threat to Taiwan” they are a threat to each other, Taiwan claims the whole of China, PRC claims the whole of China as well.

                “Interfering in our politics” sinophobic, but even then the US presents a much bigger threat. I don’t really think there is much interventionism done by the PRC troughout its history lol

                “Stops spying on us” US giggles lol

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                donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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                #69

                These are all blatant lies, but thanks for proving me right, bot.

                Btw, native English speakers don’t write things like “giggles”.

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                • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

                  Serious question; how much does China subsidize EV sales to glut markets and buy market share? I’m guessing it’s non-zero.

                  Probably less than our subsidies.

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                  ikidd@lemmy.world
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                  Probably not.

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                  • Nik282000N Nik282000

                    There are a few good defcon talks where it has been shown that the engine control and body control can be accessed and modified via the “infotainment” system (the one I saw specifically was Jeeps).

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                    floofloof@lemmy.ca
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                    #71

                    This happened for real at the weekend:

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                    Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the weekend

                    Jeep has pulled the update; owners are advised to ignore it if it already downloaded.

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                    • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                      These are all blatant lies, but thanks for proving me right, bot.

                      Btw, native English speakers don’t write things like “giggles”.

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                      packet@lemmy.ml
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #72

                      Beep bop I am a bot, come here to destroy your beautiful country, we are the horror of the white nations. And are you seriously profiling people for using “giggles”, lmao when will you bring out your skull ruler?

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                      • packet@lemmy.mlP packet@lemmy.ml

                        Beep bop I am a bot, come here to destroy your beautiful country, we are the horror of the white nations. And are you seriously profiling people for using “giggles”, lmao when will you bring out your skull ruler?

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                        donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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                        • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

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                          packet@lemmy.ml
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                          Nice racism you got there buddy

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                          • packet@lemmy.mlP packet@lemmy.ml

                            Nice racism you got there buddy

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                            donkmagnum@lemy.lol
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                            Nothing racist about Winnie the Pooh, he is cuddly and stuffed with fluff!

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                            • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                              These are all blatant lies, but thanks for proving me right, bot.

                              Btw, native English speakers don’t write things like “giggles”.

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                              Arthur Besse
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                              #76

                              These are all blatant lies

                              The comment you’re replying to contains an opinion, two statements of fact, two more opinions, an historical assessment couched in “i don’t really think”, and finally closes with giggles and lol.

                              I don’t see any lies there; if you think the factual claims in it are wrong I encourage you to read up: the PRC and ROC actually do both claim all of China, and the PRC’s foreign policy is largely non-interventionist.

                              thanks for proving me right, bot

                              Do you find many people online with opinions differing from your own who you don’t think are bots?

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                              • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

                                There is/should be a lot of room for compromise.

                                A mix of “reasonable” tariffs and quotas to start, to make Chinese EVs competitive without destroying domestic manufacturing is a good path. Canada needs investment. Whether foreign auto makers do it, following through on previous commitments, shutting out China can be a reward for them.

                                Without choosing to provide value cars to Canadians, Canada could offer agriculture for Chinese (solar) energy trade. Pemitting them to boost capacity even more.

                                Instead of begging the US to buy (and own through investment) our resources, Chinese development would help significantly as well.

                                Corrupt ideology programmed into Canadians is bad for Canada. We need new friends instead of abusers, and the only reform of an abuser possible comes when they beg for forgiveness when you flirt with new friends.

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                                bcboy911@lemmy.ca
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                                #77

                                We don’t even need to be “friends” with China, we just need to recognize the situation we’re in and work with them pragmatically. Rejecting China in the current economy is like rejecting gravity.

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                                • Nik282000N Nik282000

                                  Hey, remember when China was operating their own police force in Canada? Maybe we should be doing less business with them.

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                                  renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  #78

                                  I remember people saying that but I don’t recall ever seeing any evidence of it actually happening

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                                  • P penguintd@lemmy.ca

                                    This is exactly the mentality that caused WW1 and WW2 AND the upcoming (or ongoing) WW3. You probably did not aware how many IP theft happened to Canadian local firms and institutions.

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                                    bcboy911@lemmy.ca
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                                    #79

                                    Who the fuck cares about IP theft lmao. They can have it, ideas should be free.

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                                    • D donkmagnum@lemy.lol

                                      Nothing racist about Winnie the Pooh, he is cuddly and stuffed with fluff!

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                                      Human rights in China - Wikipedia

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                                      packet@lemmy.ml
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                                      #80

                                      Yes, nothing wrong with Winnie the pooh, great character, silly bear. Except for when the yellow bear is used to portray an Asian person, coupled with the “Tigger” the tiger used to portray a black person, i.e. Obama.

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                                      A few essays on communism. Contribute to dessalines/essays development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                                      • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

                                        Yes, but I’d much rather have the company controlling the official switch not be directly under the control of China.

                                        The US is only marginally better right now, but they have less incentive to do it and less control of their car companies.

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                                        Nik282000
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                                        #81

                                        A vulnerability was found this year in an undisclosed major car manufacture in the USA that gave total control to an attacker over all vehicles sold by that manufacture’s dealerships. Remote start/shutoff, unlock doors, GPS tracking, even transferring the ownership to another person. All modern vehicles are a security nightmare, the chinese are no better, no worse. https://eaton-works.com/2025/10/13/def-con-33/

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                                        • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                                          This happened for real at the weekend:

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the weekend

                                          Jeep has pulled the update; owners are advised to ignore it if it already downloaded.

                                          favicon

                                          Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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                                          Nik282000
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                                          #82

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