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  3. Carney's WEF speech looks to be AI generated. While I don't have a problem with using LLMs to help with writing, can he really not afford to pay a human staffer to help write his speeches?

Carney's WEF speech looks to be AI generated. While I don't have a problem with using LLMs to help with writing, can he really not afford to pay a human staffer to help write his speeches?

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  • S sepia@mander.xyz

    @yogthos@lemmygrad.ml

    You are such a joke.

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    davel@lemmy.ml
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    no u

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    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆Y ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

      you can try it yourself by putting text written by actual people and see how that goes https://app.gptzero.me/

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      mongostein@lemmy.ca
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      That doesn’t make LLM detection any more reliable

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      • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

        That doesn’t make LLM detection any more reliable

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        People here don’t seem to understand what LLM detection is. All it does is search for patterns that are very common in chatbot generated speech. It’s not some magical property that’s metaphysical in nature. Either the speech is written by a chatbot, or Carney naturally talks in this sort of vapid and content free fashion which is common for politicians to do.

        The real tell with AI writing is in the substance. It’s the weirdly balanced, almost bloodless neutrality on complex topics, the total lack of any authentic personal stake or lived experience, and a distinct feeling that you’re reading a brilliantly comprehensive Wikipedia summary instead of a thought that formed in a human mind with memories, biases, and a body.

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        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆Y ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

          You’re welcome to keep coping honey. Here are the guidelines Wikipedia uses to sniff out LLM speech if you don’t trust automated tools. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

          Of course, it’s entirely possible that Carney naturally speaks like a chatbot, which doesn’t exactly make it better.

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          cv_octavio
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          Do you know what coping is? Tangential question: do you know what the replies you’ve festooned everywhere in this conversation make it appear what you’re hard at work doing?

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          • C cv_octavio

            Do you know what coping is? Tangential question: do you know what the replies you’ve festooned everywhere in this conversation make it appear what you’re hard at work doing?

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            wrote on last edited by yogthos@lemmy.ml
            #23

            Coping is when you have a thread full of grown ass adults trying to pretend that Carney’s speech doesn’t read like it was written by a chat bot which it very obviously does. Let me know if you need any other topics explained to you like you’re five. For example, I could explain for you the concept of sealioning next, so you can avoid making a clown of yourself in public next time.

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            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆Y ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

              People here don’t seem to understand what LLM detection is. All it does is search for patterns that are very common in chatbot generated speech. It’s not some magical property that’s metaphysical in nature. Either the speech is written by a chatbot, or Carney naturally talks in this sort of vapid and content free fashion which is common for politicians to do.

              The real tell with AI writing is in the substance. It’s the weirdly balanced, almost bloodless neutrality on complex topics, the total lack of any authentic personal stake or lived experience, and a distinct feeling that you’re reading a brilliantly comprehensive Wikipedia summary instead of a thought that formed in a human mind with memories, biases, and a body.

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              mongostein@lemmy.ca
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              I get what it is. Trying myself vs you trying it doesn’t make it more reliable.

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              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆Y ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

                Coping is when you have a thread full of grown ass adults trying to pretend that Carney’s speech doesn’t read like it was written by a chat bot which it very obviously does. Let me know if you need any other topics explained to you like you’re five. For example, I could explain for you the concept of sealioning next, so you can avoid making a clown of yourself in public next time.

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                cv_octavio
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                🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

                .ml never disappoints. Thanks for the chuckles, you certainly have a singular wit.

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                • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                  I get what it is. Trying myself vs you trying it doesn’t make it more reliable.

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                  It’s obviously pretty reliable at statistically identifying patterns common to LLM generated text. Wikipedia, having had a problem with a flood of LLM written articles, has put put a whole detailed guideline of what these patterns are, and why they’re associated with LLM generated text. I implore you to spend at least a modicum of time to actually understand the subject you’re attempting to debate here.

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                    It’s obviously pretty reliable at statistically identifying patterns common to LLM generated text. Wikipedia, having had a problem with a flood of LLM written articles, has put put a whole detailed guideline of what these patterns are, and why they’re associated with LLM generated text. I implore you to spend at least a modicum of time to actually understand the subject you’re attempting to debate here.

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                    mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                    #27

                    I know how LLMs work. Nothing you say is going to convince me that me trying it myself is going to be more reliable than you trying it.

                    Like, what are you even disagreeing with me on?

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                    • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                      I know how LLMs work. Nothing you say is going to convince me that me trying it myself is going to be more reliable than you trying it.

                      Like, what are you even disagreeing with me on?

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #28

                      At this point, I have no idea what you’re even trying to say here is. When you say stuff like ‘it doesn’t make it more reliable’, what do you mean by that?

                      If you agree that you can reliably detect LLM speech patterns, then do you agree or disagree that the speech contains many patterns that closely resemble LLM generated text?

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                        At this point, I have no idea what you’re even trying to say here is. When you say stuff like ‘it doesn’t make it more reliable’, what do you mean by that?

                        If you agree that you can reliably detect LLM speech patterns, then do you agree or disagree that the speech contains many patterns that closely resemble LLM generated text?

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                        mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                        #29

                        Really?

                        You try it -> it has a certain level of reliability.

                        I try it -> that reliability doesn’t change.

                        That’s the only point I’m making. You just love to argue.

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                        • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                          Really?

                          You try it -> it has a certain level of reliability.

                          I try it -> that reliability doesn’t change.

                          That’s the only point I’m making. You just love to argue.

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                          Oh I didn’t realize you were just making a tautology without actually saying anything. Seems like we know who’s the one that just likes to argue here.

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                            Oh I didn’t realize you were just making a tautology without actually saying anything. Seems like we know who’s the one that just likes to argue here.

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                            mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                            For a guy that has nothing better to do than post on Lemmy 24/7 you sure do have a chip on your shoulder.

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                            • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                              For a guy that has nothing better to do than post on Lemmy 24/7 you sure do have a chip on your shoulder.

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                              Ah, resorting to personal attacks, now that you’ve admitted to having no actual point to make. You really have nothing better to do than harass strangers on the internet do you? Kind of a pathetic way to live bud.

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                                Ah, resorting to personal attacks, now that you’ve admitted to having no actual point to make. You really have nothing better to do than harass strangers on the internet do you? Kind of a pathetic way to live bud.

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                                mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                                Pee pee poo poo

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                                • M mongostein@lemmy.ca

                                  Pee pee poo poo

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  Yup, that’s the level of intellectual capacity you’ve consistently displayed throughout the discussion.

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                                    Good boy

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