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Canada won’t become the 51st US state – but could it join the EU?

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  • acargitzT acargitz

    Closer integration and cooperation, yes absolutely. Membership, no.

    We don’t need to be anyone’s 51st state and we don’t need to be anyone’s 28th member state.

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    nalivai@lemmy.world
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    That’s not really how EU works

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    • T thalion@lemmy.ca

      Ignoring whether this is a thing or not, those migrants would still be in Europe… Not Canada. The European Union and the Schengen zone are not the same thing.

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      nalivai@lemmy.world
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      And it’s not a thing btw.

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      • A anachronist@midwest.social

        Sorry we’re not getting along Canada but we have an illegal alien you’re going to have to take back. He’s addicted to a lot of drugs, and is a deadbeat dad many times over. His favorite hobby is accusing people of pedophillia.

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        dom@lemmy.ca
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        You broke it, you bought it

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        • N nalivai@lemmy.world

          That’s not really how EU works

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          acargitz
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          #23

          What part of what I wrote are you referring to?

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          • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

            Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

            “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

            While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

            “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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            daryl@lemmy.ca
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            The Easter coast of Canada is closer to Britain than Britain is to the furthest east point of the EU.

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            • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

              Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

              “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

              While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

              “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

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              Donald Trump’s extraordinary threats have angered Canadians and Europeans, and the idea of a new kind of transatlantic alliance is gaining traction

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              frenezul0_o@lemmy.world
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              #25

              I want to join BRICS

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              • acargitzT acargitz

                What part of what I wrote are you referring to?

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                nalivai@lemmy.world
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                Your comment wasn’t complex enough to merit this question. I was referring to the only part of your comment where it was relevant to. Which is almost all of it.

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                • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                  Joachim Streit has never stepped foot in Canada. But that hasn’t stopped the German politician from launching a tenacious, one-man campaign that he readily describes as “aspirational”: to have the North American country join the EU.

                  “We have to strengthen the European Union,” said Streit, who last year was elected as a member of the European parliament. “And I think Canada – as its prime minister says – is the most European country outside of Europe.”

                  While he admitted that the possibility of Canada as a full member of the EU “may be aspirational for now”, he wondered if it was an idea whose time had come.

                  “Canada would be a strong member,” he said. “If Canada would be a member of the EU, it would rank 4th in terms of GDP. It’s part of Nato. And 58% of (working-age) Canadians have college degrees.”

                  Link Preview Image
                  Canada won’t become the 51st US state – but could it join the EU?

                  Donald Trump’s extraordinary threats have angered Canadians and Europeans, and the idea of a new kind of transatlantic alliance is gaining traction

                  favicon

                  the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                  anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
                  #27

                  There first has to be a train line to Canada. This is an unavoidable prerequisite. Then we’ll see.

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                  • N nalivai@lemmy.world

                    Your comment wasn’t complex enough to merit this question. I was referring to the only part of your comment where it was relevant to. Which is almost all of it.

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                    acargitz
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                    So you’re saying that the EU doesn’t work in a way that allows closer cooperation and integration without membership. That’s factually wrong. This model works for Switzerland, Norway and Iceland.

                    Got any more snark?

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                    • acargitzT acargitz

                      So you’re saying that the EU doesn’t work in a way that allows closer cooperation and integration without membership. That’s factually wrong. This model works for Switzerland, Norway and Iceland.

                      Got any more snark?

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                      nalivai@lemmy.world
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                      #29

                      Oh, I have a lot of that, but I’m realising you need everything to be spelled out very thoroughly and subtlety is lost on you, so here we go:
                      The EU isn’t an authoritarian institution that you are afraid of, and as Britain’s example showed, the closer you are to being a full member, the better the benefits, and the more you’re trying to play a big boy, the more you’re in the shit.
                      Canada doesn’t have the proper ratio of citizens to stored Nazi gold to properly pull off Switzerland thing anyway.
                      But sure, closer cooperation is better than no cooperation

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                      • N nalivai@lemmy.world

                        Oh, I have a lot of that, but I’m realising you need everything to be spelled out very thoroughly and subtlety is lost on you, so here we go:
                        The EU isn’t an authoritarian institution that you are afraid of, and as Britain’s example showed, the closer you are to being a full member, the better the benefits, and the more you’re trying to play a big boy, the more you’re in the shit.
                        Canada doesn’t have the proper ratio of citizens to stored Nazi gold to properly pull off Switzerland thing anyway.
                        But sure, closer cooperation is better than no cooperation

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                        acargitz
                        wrote on last edited by theacharnian@lemmy.ca
                        #30

                        Britain was already an integrated member that decided to exit. That’s very different from opposing new deep integration.

                        We might not have a great Nazi gold to citizens ratio but our resources to citizens ratio is more than Iceland and Norway combined many many times over.

                        I never said that EU is an authoritarian institution, you made that up.

                        My argument is for keeping our existing sovereignty, such as for example being able to keep our own currency, and our more welcoming immigration policies. Canada doesn’t need the Euro, doesn’t need the ECB, we don’t need the Dublin treaty and we don’t need the Stability and Growth Pact.

                        Anything the EU does right (eg the GDPR) we can adopt and adapt for ourselves already. There is absolutely nothing holding us back from becoming better.

                        The EU is a complicated institution, parts of it are structurally neoliberal, in the same way that parts of Canadian institutions are structurally colonialist. So we really don’t need the craziness of European politics internal dysfunction. We have enough of that of our own.

                        Keep the snark coming.

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                        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA anunusualrelic@lemmy.world

                          There first has to be a train line to Canada. This is an unavoidable prerequisite. Then we’ll see.

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                          ssillyssadass
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                          A train line joining mainland EU with the UK, Iceland, Greenland and Canada?

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                          • A ssillyssadass

                            A train line joining mainland EU with the UK, Iceland, Greenland and Canada?

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                            anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
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                            Greenland is either connected by train because it’s part of Denmark, or doesn’t need to be because it’s a quasi independent territory.

                            As for Iceland, nobody knows.

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