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Rahul Goel wants to give Canada its Apollo moment | betakit.com

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  • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

    I’d rather they focused on things to actually help Canadians, like more dental coverage or un-privatizating the public transportation.

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    Otter
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    #3

    At the same time, space is a growing industry that will likely change the way we do things on the surface. I’d rather that we have some control over that than leave everything up to the americans. We could also benefit economically and use those funds for projects in other sectors.

    There are also some direct practical applications, like satellite Internet in remote regions, and Earth observation / climate research.

    I don’t know how it will all play out, but this seems like a good thing. Why pay musk for starlink and spacex launches when we can set up something for ourselves.

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    • OtterO Otter

      At the same time, space is a growing industry that will likely change the way we do things on the surface. I’d rather that we have some control over that than leave everything up to the americans. We could also benefit economically and use those funds for projects in other sectors.

      There are also some direct practical applications, like satellite Internet in remote regions, and Earth observation / climate research.

      I don’t know how it will all play out, but this seems like a good thing. Why pay musk for starlink and spacex launches when we can set up something for ourselves.

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      mysterioussophon21@lemmy.world
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      #4

      Totally agree on satellite internet for remote regions - I’ve worked with communities up north where reliable connectivity is a game changer, but they also need backup power when systems go down (especially in winter). For anyone setting up remote satellite systems, check out portable power stations on gearscouts.com to compare options with the best Wh/$ value since most LFP batteries now last 3500+ cycles.

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      • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

        I’d rather they focused on things to actually help Canadians, like more dental coverage or un-privatizating the public transportation.

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        melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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        #5

        Oh my God enough of this. Being a leader in industries like space during the early days of a new space race literally helps Canada and Canadians. Brush your teeth and stop with this pity party

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        • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

          I’d rather they focused on things to actually help Canadians, like more dental coverage or un-privatizating the public transportation.

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          hikingvet@lemmy.ca
          wrote on last edited by hikingvet@lemmy.ca
          #6

          Perfect is the enemy of progress. We can do all of those things.

          You can go out and harrass your duly elected officials for those things and leave the space people alone…

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          • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

            Oh my God enough of this. Being a leader in industries like space during the early days of a new space race literally helps Canada and Canadians. Brush your teeth and stop with this pity party

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            brobot9000@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by brobot9000@lemmy.world
            #7

            Funny coming from the guy rooting for Trump and watches Joe Rogan.

            Did you consume too much ivermectin or do you just enjoy acting like cattle?

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            • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

              I’d rather they focused on things to actually help Canadians, like more dental coverage or un-privatizating the public transportation.

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              ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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              Canada needs public satellite internet to help Canadians

              We are too large and remote to not have it, however this is about private enterprise

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              • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                I’d rather they focused on things to actually help Canadians, like more dental coverage or un-privatizating the public transportation.

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                GrizzlyBur
                wrote on last edited by grizzlybur@lemmy.ca
                #9

                “If everything goes right, his company, NordSpace, will make history by orchestrating Canada’s first commercial rocket launch.”

                This is a private entity, not the government. Unless you mean you want a private company to somehow do more dental coverage and a private company to make private transit public.

                You could have at least read the blurb I put in the body text of the post.

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                • G GrizzlyBur

                  “If everything goes right, his company, NordSpace, will make history by orchestrating Canada’s first commercial rocket launch.”

                  This is a private entity, not the government. Unless you mean you want a private company to somehow do more dental coverage and a private company to make private transit public.

                  You could have at least read the blurb I put in the body text of the post.

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                  brobot9000@lemmy.world
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                  #10

                  Yay another fucking private company that will lobby politicians and eventually push its owner to a Musk level position and can abuse government grants and tax breaks instead of investing in Canadian public services.

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                  • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                    Yay another fucking private company that will lobby politicians and eventually push its owner to a Musk level position and can abuse government grants and tax breaks instead of investing in Canadian public services.

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                    GrizzlyBur
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                    #11

                    You are really good at taking the good and the bad, but throwing away the good so you only have the bad.

                    These guys have given us no reason to believe that they will be anything like Musk. There are hundreds and thousands of private companies that operate within the law and/or ethically in general. Other people have already given you many reasons why being able to do our own domestic (albeit private) rocket launches is extremely beneficial. Such as doing our own starlink instead of using Musks’.

                    I’m pretty anti-capitalist and a Musk-hater as they come too, but I feel you are just speaking from a place of anger, not reason. Even if it were the government doing this, space infrastructure development is just as important for Canadian citizens as more dental coverage and overhauling public transit.

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                    • G GrizzlyBur

                      You are really good at taking the good and the bad, but throwing away the good so you only have the bad.

                      These guys have given us no reason to believe that they will be anything like Musk. There are hundreds and thousands of private companies that operate within the law and/or ethically in general. Other people have already given you many reasons why being able to do our own domestic (albeit private) rocket launches is extremely beneficial. Such as doing our own starlink instead of using Musks’.

                      I’m pretty anti-capitalist and a Musk-hater as they come too, but I feel you are just speaking from a place of anger, not reason. Even if it were the government doing this, space infrastructure development is just as important for Canadian citizens as more dental coverage and overhauling public transit.

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                      brobot9000@lemmy.world
                      wrote on last edited by brobot9000@lemmy.world
                      #12

                      And you have no foresight.

                      You don’t want Starlink but want to replace it with another private company instead of it being government funded and controlled….

                      These private companies are literally blasting countless environmental toxins with each failed rocket. That kind of environmental impact should be government regulated and not left to some tech bro to experiment with.

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                      • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                        And you have no foresight.

                        You don’t want Starlink but want to replace it with another private company instead of it being government funded and controlled….

                        These private companies are literally blasting countless environmental toxins with each failed rocket. That kind of environmental impact should be government regulated and not left to some tech bro to experiment with.

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                        GrizzlyBur
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                        #13

                        I agree that having the government do it would be ideal, though a government could fumble it just as bad or worse than any private company. I’ll take a flawed domestic starlink/rocket launches over none at all. Especially if the alternative means relying on America/Musk even more.

                        I don’t know about the toxins from launches, but I think it must be a drop in the bucket compared to air travel, cars, and dirty electricty generation. If that is what it takes to get us space infrastructure, I’d call that the cost of doing business. I also have faith that there can be reasonable way to mitigate the damage such as choice of where they are launched and further developing the technology. Much of the tech has gone largely unchanged from the moon landing era, afaik.

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                        • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                          Yay another fucking private company that will lobby politicians and eventually push its owner to a Musk level position and can abuse government grants and tax breaks instead of investing in Canadian public services.

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                          masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                          Your reasoning is Elon bad, Elon do rockets, so rockets be bad.

                          It’s kindergarten level.

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                          • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                            Your reasoning is Elon bad, Elon do rockets, so rockets be bad.

                            It’s kindergarten level.

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                            brobot9000@lemmy.world
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                            I’ll bet you are fine with celebrities using private jets to fly everywhere without thinking of the impact on the environment. Taylor Swift should be fined to shit for the amount she’s polluting with her tours.

                            I’m against the privatization of environmental disasters and the CEOs lack of accountability.

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                            • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                              I’ll bet you are fine with celebrities using private jets to fly everywhere without thinking of the impact on the environment. Taylor Swift should be fined to shit for the amount she’s polluting with her tours.

                              I’m against the privatization of environmental disasters and the CEOs lack of accountability.

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                              masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                              #16

                              I’ll bet you’re not worth engaging with because you view the world in childish black and white terms.

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                              • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                                I’ll bet you’re not worth engaging with because you view the world in childish black and white terms.

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                                brobot9000@lemmy.world
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                                #17

                                Cute. Thinking someone wants to engage with you

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                                • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                                  I’ll bet you are fine with celebrities using private jets to fly everywhere without thinking of the impact on the environment. Taylor Swift should be fined to shit for the amount she’s polluting with her tours.

                                  I’m against the privatization of environmental disasters and the CEOs lack of accountability.

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                                  Rob Bos
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                                  #18

                                  Clearly you hate jets, so flying jets to deliver medicines to sick children are a bad thing? You are a horrible person.

                                  Two can play at the wilful misunderstanding game…

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                                  • Rob BosR Rob Bos

                                    Clearly you hate jets, so flying jets to deliver medicines to sick children are a bad thing? You are a horrible person.

                                    Two can play at the wilful misunderstanding game…

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                                    brobot9000@lemmy.world
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                                    #19

                                    Can you distinguish the difference between life saving medicine and a celebrity touring with daily jet flights?

                                    There’s a difference in case you can’t tell.

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                                    • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                                      Can you distinguish the difference between life saving medicine and a celebrity touring with daily jet flights?

                                      There’s a difference in case you can’t tell.

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                                      Rob Bos
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                                      #20

                                      Yes. I’m glad you understand my argument. And can you distinguish the difference between launching Earth-monitoring satellites, communication satellites, exploration satellites, and penis rockets for billionaires?

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                                      • Rob BosR Rob Bos

                                        Yes. I’m glad you understand my argument. And can you distinguish the difference between launching Earth-monitoring satellites, communication satellites, exploration satellites, and penis rockets for billionaires?

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                                        brobot9000@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on last edited by brobot9000@lemmy.world
                                        #21

                                        The difference is one is run and regulated by the local government and the other is a private company whose only goal is make number go up at all costs.

                                        Rocket launches should government/public and not owned by another company that will enshittify and fleece the public once they have established themselves as the one monopoly and have driven out all competition.

                                        Why the fuck do you want to give “earth monitoring satellites” and the communication system of an entire country to a fucking private corporation….

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                                        • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                                          The difference is one is run and regulated by the local government and the other is a private company whose only goal is make number go up at all costs.

                                          Rocket launches should government/public and not owned by another company that will enshittify and fleece the public once they have established themselves as the one monopoly and have driven out all competition.

                                          Why the fuck do you want to give “earth monitoring satellites” and the communication system of an entire country to a fucking private corporation….

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                                          Rob Bos
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                                          #22

                                          Aren’t you a peach.

                                          Well, here’s a straw man for you. Go nuts.

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