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Alberta’s fanciful separatist movement was the big loser in Monday’s byelections

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    Sunshine (she/her)
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      teppa
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      The separatist movement clearly exists solely in order to attempt to push pipelines. They are taking the same path as Quebec in an attempt at gaining bargaining power, and Trumps threat of annexation just made it possible.

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        The separatist movement clearly exists solely in order to attempt to push pipelines. They are taking the same path as Quebec in an attempt at gaining bargaining power, and Trumps threat of annexation just made it possible.

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        imrighthere@lemmy.ca
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        Dress it up any way you like, they’re fucking traitors.

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          Dress it up any way you like, they’re fucking traitors.

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          teppa
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          Traitors to the people blocking their main export I guess. Let’s not pretend like BC NDP or Quebec are terribly helpful for Alberta’s exports, and Canada isn’t refining oil in great volumes any time soon.

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            The separatist movement clearly exists solely in order to attempt to push pipelines. They are taking the same path as Quebec in an attempt at gaining bargaining power, and Trumps threat of annexation just made it possible.

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            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            No. It’s all culture warriors in the Alberta Republicans right now. I don’t know if I’ve seen much about pipelines at all from them. They prefer dogwhistling - “stand up for our values”. Meanwhile, the oil industry basically owns the UCP and Danielle Smith, to the point where agriculture has kind of been pushed out.

            That’s also why they lost. The oil industry is popular in Alberta, as is the idea of having our cake and eating it too, when it comes to the federation. The cultural conservative stereotype of is way off, though, even for the most part in rural areas.

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              rekabis@lemmy.ca
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              Oh, thank goodness.

              If they really hate Canada so much, they should emigrate - America is due south. Pack up and leave!

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                hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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                The majority of Albertans aren’t separatists — with one recent poll indicating 67 per cent disagree with the statement “Alberta would be better off if it separated from Canada.”

                But Smith is not worried about the majority. She is worried about the 30 per cent who agreed with the statement and especially the 18 per cent who voted for the Republican Party on Monday. This is Smith’s Conservative base, including the people Jason Kenney called the “lunatics” who helped topple him from the premier’s throne in 2022 and replace him with Smith.

                Alberta has a little over 2 years to wait before they can oust this traitor.

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                  lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                  Nice to see the right wing vote getting split for a change.

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                    Dress it up any way you like, they’re fucking traitors.

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                    systemglitch@lemmy.world
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                    100% traitors.

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                      No. It’s all culture warriors in the Alberta Republicans right now. I don’t know if I’ve seen much about pipelines at all from them. They prefer dogwhistling - “stand up for our values”. Meanwhile, the oil industry basically owns the UCP and Danielle Smith, to the point where agriculture has kind of been pushed out.

                      That’s also why they lost. The oil industry is popular in Alberta, as is the idea of having our cake and eating it too, when it comes to the federation. The cultural conservative stereotype of is way off, though, even for the most part in rural areas.

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                      teppa
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                      Canada is owned by oil companies. Trace oil prices to Canadians dollar value and you’d see pretty quick as to why.

                      Or if you have the attention span this is really informative, after all the gold bug stuff:

                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXgOLCm54A

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                        Oh, thank goodness.

                        If they really hate Canada so much, they should emigrate - America is due south. Pack up and leave!

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                        Sunshine (she/her)
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                        Russians in the baltics leave the chat.

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                          The separatist movement clearly exists solely in order to attempt to push pipelines. They are taking the same path as Quebec in an attempt at gaining bargaining power, and Trumps threat of annexation just made it possible.

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                          BurgerBaron
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                          Separatist movement is funded by USA Republicans and Russia to destabilize Canada.

                          Before the recent federal election the separatists were polling* at 19% which was only a couple single digit % difference more than other prairie provinces.

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                            Canada is owned by oil companies. Trace oil prices to Canadians dollar value and you’d see pretty quick as to why.

                            Or if you have the attention span this is really informative, after all the gold bug stuff:

                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXgOLCm54A

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                            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                            When does the gold bug stuff end?

                            I assume they have hard data to back it up if I’m supposed to find the information credible anyway.

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