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  • C cyborganism

    The guy was a criminal scumbag. But that doesn’t mean he should have died while in custody.

    Edit:

    It says so right in the article and in the video.

    ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

    He was convicted of drug trafficking and other charges in Volusia County, Florida, in 2023 and sentenced to 12 months in prison, ICE said.

    In May of this year, Noviello was arrested by ICE at the Florida Department of Corrections probation office and charged with removability due to his earlier conviction.

    And I also said that he didn’t deserve to die. So why are you mad?

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    NotAGamer
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    He had already served his time for drug conviction. Stop judging.

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    • C cyborganism

      The guy was a criminal scumbag. But that doesn’t mean he should have died while in custody.

      Edit:

      It says so right in the article and in the video.

      ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

      He was convicted of drug trafficking and other charges in Volusia County, Florida, in 2023 and sentenced to 12 months in prison, ICE said.

      In May of this year, Noviello was arrested by ICE at the Florida Department of Corrections probation office and charged with removability due to his earlier conviction.

      And I also said that he didn’t deserve to die. So why are you mad?

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      ottovonnoob@lemmy.ca
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      Hey, look at the judge, jury, and executioner over here. I think a long time ago, the death penalty was abolished in the civilized world, sir.

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      • K Kobek

        So a non-citizen who was convicted of a federal crime in 2023 was being deported and he died in custody?

        Is the media trying to convince us to feel bad for a drug trafficker because the agency who arrested him is associated with Trump through other media articles? Do you not see the manipulation? Makes me want to puke.

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        fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca
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        You’re a fucking neanderthal

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        • C cyborganism

          The guy was a criminal scumbag. But that doesn’t mean he should have died while in custody.

          Edit:

          It says so right in the article and in the video.

          ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

          He was convicted of drug trafficking and other charges in Volusia County, Florida, in 2023 and sentenced to 12 months in prison, ICE said.

          In May of this year, Noviello was arrested by ICE at the Florida Department of Corrections probation office and charged with removability due to his earlier conviction.

          And I also said that he didn’t deserve to die. So why are you mad?

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          but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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          Who said he is those things? Just wondering if the source are the people who killed him

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          • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

            Who said he is those things? Just wondering if the source are the people who killed him

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            cyborganism
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            #14

            Read the fucking article ! It’s right in there.

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            • O ottovonnoob@lemmy.ca

              Hey, look at the judge, jury, and executioner over here. I think a long time ago, the death penalty was abolished in the civilized world, sir.

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              cyborganism
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              #15

              I specifically said he didn’t deserve death ffs.

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              • N NotAGamer

                He had already served his time for drug conviction. Stop judging.

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                cyborganism
                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                If it’s grounds for him to lose his residency then that’s that. Nobody deserves to die over this though.

                Had this guy been an American in Canada what would you have said? You wouldn’t want a criminal to go back home?

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                • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

                  So a non-citizen who was convicted of a federal crime in 2023 was being deported and he died in custody?

                  “ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988.”

                  They were only kicking him out because of his drug convictions, which he already served a 12 month prison sentence for.

                  Basically, “anything bad makes you a non-citizen”, which begs the question: how is Trump dealing with domestic terrorists?

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                  sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                  #17

                  Basically, “anything bad makes you a non-citizen”

                  In Canada, a permanent resident isn’t a citizen - their residency can be legally revoked at any time. Is it the same in the US?

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                  • C cyborganism

                    If it’s grounds for him to lose his residency then that’s that. Nobody deserves to die over this though.

                    Had this guy been an American in Canada what would you have said? You wouldn’t want a criminal to go back home?

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                    madison420@lemmy.world
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                    #18

                    It’s not without a trial in immigration court.

                    He’s a legal resident, he was in his home when he was arrested.

                    Why don’t you go back to your home?

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                    • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

                      So a non-citizen who was convicted of a federal crime in 2023 was being deported and he died in custody?

                      “ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988.”

                      They were only kicking him out because of his drug convictions, which he already served a 12 month prison sentence for.

                      Basically, “anything bad makes you a non-citizen”, which begs the question: how is Trump dealing with domestic terrorists?

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                      madison420@lemmy.world
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                      #19

                      Or his wife who’s admitted to overstaying her visa which the vet admission of is grounds for deportation and disqualifying for citizenship and fun fact a crime to lie about to gain citizenship.

                      Also fun fact Frederick Trump, Fred Trump’s father so Trump’s father’s father was an illegal immigrant as well and a draft dodger as were Fred and djt.

                      Third fun fact, Benny netenyahu and Fred Trump were close personal friends so maybe bombing Iran is a personal favor for his Daddy’s friend.

                      What lines do we want to draw here because I’m pretty fucking sure there’s significantly more shit in the trump family closet than this random immigrant who actually served his time unlike the felon in chief.

                      Ed: I realize that sounded like it was aimed at you, it wasn’t it just gets me heated lol.

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                      • M madison420@lemmy.world

                        It’s not without a trial in immigration court.

                        He’s a legal resident, he was in his home when he was arrested.

                        Why don’t you go back to your home?

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                        cyborganism
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                        #20

                        Ah ok I see what you mean.

                        So a court can’t just decide whether a resident’s status is revoked after committing a crime? There has to be a trial? Especially if the person was already convicted of a crime?

                        Can’t a person lose their permanent residency in the same way in Canada?

                        I’m really asking here. Not being sarcastic or anything.

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                        • K Kobek

                          So a non-citizen who was convicted of a federal crime in 2023 was being deported and he died in custody?

                          Is the media trying to convince us to feel bad for a drug trafficker because the agency who arrested him is associated with Trump through other media articles? Do you not see the manipulation? Makes me want to puke.

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                          non_burglar@lemmy.world
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                          Man, are you a bot? Like every single comment is just inflammatory with you.

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                          • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                            Basically, “anything bad makes you a non-citizen”

                            In Canada, a permanent resident isn’t a citizen - their residency can be legally revoked at any time. Is it the same in the US?

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                            madison420@lemmy.world
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                            It is, that said it isn’t supposed to be revoked willy nilly because it removes incentive to get it in the first place and the government wants legal immigrants not illegal ones. It’s the same reason arrests at immigration court are ass backwards unless your intent is to scare people away from attending their hearings so they can then be arrested for missing hearings.

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                            • C cyborganism

                              Ah ok I see what you mean.

                              So a court can’t just decide whether a resident’s status is revoked after committing a crime? There has to be a trial? Especially if the person was already convicted of a crime?

                              Can’t a person lose their permanent residency in the same way in Canada?

                              I’m really asking here. Not being sarcastic or anything.

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                              madison420@lemmy.world
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                              There are qualifying crimes but they still go through immigration court that basically put it on paper and determine when and where they’ll be deported or if they’re going to be granted a waiver for whatever reason.

                              Yes. Same basic structure certain crimes are qualifying most are not. The Canadian center for refugees has sort of an fyi of you’re curious.

                              And yes most countries have the same basic structure and even citizens can have their citizenship revoked for certain crimes usually like treason and the like and be forced into statelessness.

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                              • M madison420@lemmy.world

                                There are qualifying crimes but they still go through immigration court that basically put it on paper and determine when and where they’ll be deported or if they’re going to be granted a waiver for whatever reason.

                                Yes. Same basic structure certain crimes are qualifying most are not. The Canadian center for refugees has sort of an fyi of you’re curious.

                                And yes most countries have the same basic structure and even citizens can have their citizenship revoked for certain crimes usually like treason and the like and be forced into statelessness.

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                                cyborganism
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                                I see. Thanks for the explanation.

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                                • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                                  cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

                                  ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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                                  hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  Buddy didn’t deserve to die for some fuckin oxys. Not even that fuckin many either he probably just had a bottle of his own. But well you got more than one or two and they will nail you for trafficking in Florida.

                                  He’s not the most upstanding person but he’s a literal interpretation of a Florida man, they should of been proud to have this guy embrace their culture.

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