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Carney caves on taxing digital giants and Trump's White House claims victory

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  • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

    This isn’t a cave. This is giving a narcissist a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything. We’ll all learn next month that it was never about the DST.

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    grte@lemmy.ca
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    Carney sure seems like he’s in a hurry to use any excuse to cut a tax. Letting Trump dictate Canada’s internal policy is one hell of a win to give away.

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    • G grte@lemmy.ca

      Carney sure seems like he’s in a hurry to use any excuse to cut a tax. Letting Trump dictate Canada’s internal policy is one hell of a win to give away.

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      lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca
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      Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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      • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

        This isn’t a cave. This is giving a narcissist a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything. We’ll all learn next month that it was never about the DST.

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        rimitywr@lemmy.world
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        a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything.

        Except for billions of dollars of tax revenue.

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        • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

          Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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          k0e3@lemmy.ca
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          What? The digital service tax was for the American corporations to pay.

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          • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

            Can people stop spamming the “elbow up” crap. I agree with the sentiment but if that’s all you have to say just upvote one of the preexisting comment with it.

            There’s no value having walls of what is essentially the same thing. This a bad Reddit habit people seem to be bringing over.

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            k0e3@lemmy.ca
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            The only content using the phrase seems to be yours.

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            • R rimitywr@lemmy.world

              a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything.

              Except for billions of dollars of tax revenue.

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              non_burglar@lemmy.world
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              Which would be, in practice, very difficult to enforce. These companies excel in lowering overhead and avoiding taxes. The very fact that brands ike facebook and google are available in nearly every country should tell you the level of coercive power and wealth they actually have.

              I’m not happy about it either, but it is entirely possible that this was a tactic or diversion.

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              • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                What? The digital service tax was for the American corporations to pay.

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                alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                And they’re absolutely never going to raise prices for Canadians to compensate right?

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                • A alsimoneau@lemmy.ca

                  And they’re absolutely never going to raise prices for Canadians to compensate right?

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                  k0e3@lemmy.ca
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                  That wasn’t the argument OP was making.

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                  • N non_burglar@lemmy.world

                    Which would be, in practice, very difficult to enforce. These companies excel in lowering overhead and avoiding taxes. The very fact that brands ike facebook and google are available in nearly every country should tell you the level of coercive power and wealth they actually have.

                    I’m not happy about it either, but it is entirely possible that this was a tactic or diversion.

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                    jhex@lemmy.world
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                    oh yes, the bending over and take it power move… awesome for any time trump throws a tantrum

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                    • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

                      You might be giving it too much credit. It might not quite be ju-jitsu, but I’ll say that it might be making the best of what’s around. People need to understand how completely unhinged the US has become and realize that the rest of the planet is dealing with a country that doesn’t see past the grift it’s committing on it’s own people to make a quick buck. I never thought i would support a WEF banker, but right now Carney is the best weapon Canada has against the level of short sighted corruption the US wholeheartedly voted for.

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                      jhex@lemmy.world
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                      and how is giving in to every trump whim a good strategy to deal with him?

                      what’s next? becoming the 51st state to placate him?

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                        wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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                        • A alsimoneau@lemmy.ca

                          And they’re absolutely never going to raise prices for Canadians to compensate right?

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                          rimitywr@lemmy.world
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                          What is the price to use Facebook?

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                          • L lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca

                            Y’all are remembering that it’s us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It’s not going to affect any company’s bottom line in the slightest.

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                            grte@lemmy.ca
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                            I don’t agree, but even if I grant it do you feel great about a hostile foreign leader dictating your country’s laws? The DST was finished legislation, legally passed by Canadian’s elected representatives. And now it’s gone. Because Trump says so.

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                              sillyglow@lemmy.ca
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                              Calm down. This was the same tactic sheinbaum uses every day. Manufactured chaos over a nothing tax that wasn’t even enforced for years.it was a throw away deal to distract Donald cuz he’s so dumb and easily distracted. ‘I won!’ Meanwhile the export market and Canada stocks took a sweet uptick. Donald is none the wiser as to why. He’s just running off to admire himself in the mirror again.

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                              • R rimitywr@lemmy.world

                                a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything.

                                Except for billions of dollars of tax revenue.

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                                sillyglow@lemmy.ca
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                                It was never enforced since 2022. It was a diversion tactic.

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                                • J jhex@lemmy.world

                                  oh yes, the bending over and take it power move… awesome for any time trump throws a tantrum

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                                  sillyglow@lemmy.ca
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                                  You seem to accuse a lot of people of bending over in your comment history and seem pretty keen on violence.

                                  You’re not here for discussion. You’re here to bait. Get bent.

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                                  • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

                                    This isn’t a cave. This is giving a narcissist a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything. We’ll all learn next month that it was never about the DST.

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                                    kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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                                    We already know Trump’s bluster isn’t about the DST or illegal border crossing or fentynal or any of the other things he’s been whining about.

                                    It’s about him throwing his (considerable) weight around and making himself feel more important.

                                    And about finding new ways to scam his followers by showing off how super important he is.

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                                    • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                                      What? The digital service tax was for the American corporations to pay.

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                                      kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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                                      That foreign corporations would pay out of their Canadian sales.

                                      Which would certainly cause them to increase the fees they charge their Canadian customers so they don’t have to reduce their profits.

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                                      • R rimitywr@lemmy.world

                                        What is the price to use Facebook?

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                                        kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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                                        What is the price to use Facebook?

                                        Hundreds of ads being shoved in your face.

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                                        • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

                                          That foreign corporations would pay out of their Canadian sales.

                                          Which would certainly cause them to increase the fees they charge their Canadian customers so they don’t have to reduce their profits.

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                                          k0e3@lemmy.ca
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                                          I’m well aware that’s what they might do to offset their costs, but OP saying that the corporations us Canadians will have to pay the tax is plain wrong. They’re probably conflating it with tariffs.

                                          And sorry ‒ off topic question. I haven’t lived in Canada in years, but do we really say “y’all” now? That’s kinda weird.

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